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Discussion in 'News' started by malcolm, Jun 22, 2008.

  1. malcolm

    malcolm Active Member

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    Four articles on electric transportation in today's edition:-

    http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/news/article4187546.ece

    Our friends electric - Times Online

    Smart Fortwo ED: It’s a total shock – I love it review | New Car Reviews - Times Online

    http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/features/article4176474.ece

    The first one is in the main paper the other three are in the "In Gear" motoring/gadgets supplement.

    However, in the print edition, the first article includes a chart of basic stats for four EVs; the G-Wiz the Mega City, The Smart ED and the, quote, "Tesla Sports". This entry simply states 125mph top speed, 220 mile range and "Available in the UK in 2009"

    Petrol prices are forcing brits to take a serious look at EVs. This is a great opportunity to get the Tesla name out there, without the usual "we work with Lotus" negotiation-opener. Clearly the UK press are happy to print articles on EVs - even Vicki Butler-Henderson does a re-hash of her Fifith Gear review of the Smart ED.

    At least one Roadster will be back in the UK over the next few weeks for the Salon Prive, Goodwood Festival of Speed and the British Motor Show, so I hope these appearances will be matched by print articles on the car.

    While the number of Roadster owners is so low, this is the ideal opportunity for that long-term test. It would be geat if Tesla were prepared to cover the cost of installing a fast charger in the garage of - ideally - one of the Top Gear team.

    May not be possible - but someone needs to write that "Living with the Tesla Roadster" article.
     
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    Unfortunately they perpetuate this myth in the first article:

    We also have to get this standardised:

    Stardard 13A sockets will not be good enough for high-power cars like the Roadster to charge in a working day. At the very least they should be fitting 32A commando type sockets (better still the 70A chargers). I presume the car's onboard charger can handle 32A, 240V if available?
     
  3. malcolm

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    Yes, no problem. Because of the links with Lotus, the car is UK-ready in terms of charging and EU-wide homologation rule-changes from April 2009 takes care of the rest.

    I agree that these articles are full of the same old stuff - but rising petrol prices changes the context. It's the opportunity which they represent rather than the current lack-lustre content.

    Say "EV" over here and most people automatically think of "G-Wiz". By the end of this summer it really should be "Tesla Roadster".
     
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    I don't know... if it's 13A at 240V, over an 8 hours workday that's almost 25kWh. That's enough to drive the roadster for 100 miles.
     
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    Malcolm, I think you might have missed this one:
    "Stand back, it’s the charge of the supercars"
    http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/article4181848.ece

    What's nice about this article is that it's about supercars, not EVs. Telsa just happens to be the only EV mentioned.
     
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    This would be nice, but I'd prefer they wait till Drivetrain 1.5 is installed for Top Gear. Would love to see the Stig take the Roadster around the Top Gear track. I think the long-term test, however, is probably better done by a car show/magazine that is more about reviews and less about entertainment.
     
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    I agree.

    The new series of Top Gear started last night and in the introduction about what is coming up in the next 6 weeks, Tesla was not mentioned.
     
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    I see the Sunday Times has made the mistake us British Roadster fans made earlier - namely taking the Dollar price and applying the current exchange rate.

    The Roadster will more likely be over £80,000+VAT (17.5%) here. That moves it from merely expensive to astronomical when compared with an Elise. Even with fuel at the price it is now in the UK, the Roadster would not pay for itself in a typical lifetime. Buyers must therefore look at this in more than financial terms. It's a pity - at £50k I would have already got my cheque book out, but at circa £100,000 I will be waiting a while yet.
     

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