chronopc
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Same here. It'll be interesting to see how my tires hold up. Lately I've been trying to max out my efficiency so I've been driving like a grandma and averaging 205 Kw/Mi. Hopefully this helps to reduce tire wear.
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Worn out rear tires at 13000 miles?
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A Tesla Sales Associate told me he burned off a set of tires in 4K miles demonstrating "Ludie" take-offs!
His boss was not happy.
His boss was not happy.
Daniel in SD
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Have someone check the rear toe. That could be the problem but it sounds like the RWD just wears out the rears faster.
Personally I just measure the tread depth to see if the tires need to be rotated. Many manufacturers no longer recommend rotating tires.
Personally I just measure the tread depth to see if the tires need to be rotated. Many manufacturers no longer recommend rotating tires.
Almost any tread wear warranty requires rotations (or is halved on staggered installs where you can't rotate). Presumably, if you had rotated you would have got 20k+ out of the set, since the fronts are still around half of the usable tread.
Some of my new cars have come with the manufacturer's tire warranty, others without. Presumably, it depends on the contract between the vehicle and tire manufacturer. In any case, the Michelin warranty requires rotation every 6-8k miles and wouldn't be valid.
The torque on Teslas will eat the tires if you're not gentle, my Model X got new tires at 13k miles and I'm close to needing replacements again at 25k. I'll at least get some prorated warranty on the 2nd set, even though I'm staggered and can't rotate (means the rear warranty is reduced to 25k).
Rotation is a must if you can do it, especially with the RWD.
EDIT: I won't be surprised if tire manufactures start specifically excluding EVs from tread wear warranties. The low end torque just eats them up.
Some of my new cars have come with the manufacturer's tire warranty, others without. Presumably, it depends on the contract between the vehicle and tire manufacturer. In any case, the Michelin warranty requires rotation every 6-8k miles and wouldn't be valid.
The torque on Teslas will eat the tires if you're not gentle, my Model X got new tires at 13k miles and I'm close to needing replacements again at 25k. I'll at least get some prorated warranty on the 2nd set, even though I'm staggered and can't rotate (means the rear warranty is reduced to 25k).
Rotation is a must if you can do it, especially with the RWD.
EDIT: I won't be surprised if tire manufactures start specifically excluding EVs from tread wear warranties. The low end torque just eats them up.
corduroy
Active Member
It's the price we pay for torturing our tires with huge amounts of torque while having too much fun.
I wouldn't count on a tire warranty either, they are pretty much useless.
I wouldn't count on a tire warranty either, they are pretty much useless.
TT97
Active Member
My last car, rear wheels only lasted 7,500 miles each vs 15,000 miles in the front (summer performance tires). Stop and go traffic puts more wear on tires than highway driving. RWD puts more pressure on rear tires especially if you are doing hard accelerations as this shifts weight to the rear (not as much on EVs than ICE due to lower center of gravity). The regen will wear out rear tires faster as the front does not have regen (this only applies to RWD Tesla's) vs regular braking that tends to put more pressure on the front tires.
Making sure car alignment is ok and rotating tires helps extend the wear overall, even if you get charged $75 for tire rotation.
On the bright side, it's a good excuse to get better tires on your car.
Making sure car alignment is ok and rotating tires helps extend the wear overall, even if you get charged $75 for tire rotation.
On the bright side, it's a good excuse to get better tires on your car.
Warranties on OEM tires typically only cover defects, not wear. Even https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=50 says
C141medic
Active Member
From Michelin’s web site:
Mileage Warranties & Limited Warranty
All MICHELIN® tires4 (both Replacement & Original Equipment) come with a limited warranty for treadwear, as well as a limited warranty which covers defects in workmanship and materials for the life of the original usable tread, or for 6 years from date of purchase, whichever occurs first. Mileage treadwear warranties vary by tire line. For the specific mileage treadwear warranty for your MICHELIN® tire, see Michelin Brand Mileage Treadwear Warranties.
My RWD BMW i3 had greater wear on the rears due to regen. Trying to slow down the car from the rear wheels opposite the force of direction of the car puts more strain on those tires.
I wanted to rotate at 6250 miles, but when the Tesla Service Center said $75 for a rotation, I thought to myself "Well, looks like I'm not rotating!!!".
I know, but they and Michelin will find some excuse not to give it. Maybe if I could at least get free installation of replacements, that'd be good.
I just grabbed 50,000 as a general number, many new tires are good for 50K or more.
In the early 2000s, I had a couple 1989 Dodge Spirits with 2.5 Turbo engines. They could do some Tesla-like launches with a few mods. I'd wear out front tires pretty quickly, but the rears would last a long time as long as I had done the alignment well with the wedges / shims to adjust the angles. The rears are just holding up the back end of FWD cars, they don't do much else.
I'm curious to see how fast P3D cars eat their tires.
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Michelin seems to be an interesting exception.
I already posted what Tirerack and Bridgestone Firestone say. My current car and my former 04 Nissan 350Z came w/Bridgestone tires.
My 06 Prius came w/Goodyear Integrities. Goodyear Tread Life Limited Warranty | Goodyear Tires says
My mother's 07 Altima Hybrid came with Continental Tires. The warranty booklet in the section that applies to Continental says under the General Exclusions section "Company does not offer tread wearout coverage up to a predetermined mileage under this Policy."
That is crazy. Is it 3/32" across the whole tread section? I don't understand how they can wear that much especially when they're designed to have less rolling resistance.
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
We are currently at 7.5/32" on the rears and 8/32" on the fronts at about 5k miles (8.5/32" new). Only a handful of full throttle takeoffs, otherwise pretty conservative driving at 225 wh/mi.
High tread wear is the norm for a 4000lb RWD car that can go 0-60 in under 5 seconds. Welcome to the club of buying tires every 20,000 miles or so. You can either rotate and replace all 4 tires in 20k-30k miles or not rotate and just replace the rears at 15k and the fronts at 30k. Or drive it like grandma and and get more.
C141medic
Active Member
I’ll definitely be checking my tread depth. According to Michelin the OEM 18 inch
PrimacyTM MXM4®* W All-Season are covered up to 45k for tread wear. 3/32 depth @ only 5K miles is ridiculous.
PrimacyTM MXM4®* W All-Season are covered up to 45k for tread wear. 3/32 depth @ only 5K miles is ridiculous.
Daniel in SD
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