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  1. Zythryn

    Stalk or no stalk argument [not] settled

    So now I am curious if those that held up this article as proof that the stalkless controls are unsafe, will now feel the stalks are unsafe? ;-)
  2. Zythryn

    Stalk or no stalk argument [not] settled

    I probably would have a similar reaction. From what I saw, the turn signals on the X & S are smooth capacitance ‘buttons’ with no texture. The 3 has actual buttons with a ridge you can feel. For me, it makes a huge difference. I expect the use of actual buttons to make its way to the S & X...
  3. Zythryn

    Stalk or no stalk argument [not] settled

    I understand this choice, I just hope those that don’t buy a Tesla as a result will let Tesla corporate know. For me, I won’t be buying a car that uses stalks. I find the stalkless design in the Highland very useful and safer. If I had a lot of roundabouts in my area that may not be the case...
  4. Zythryn

    Wh/km (or mi) / range grossly mis-advertised, if not fraudulent... srsly.

    For me, and the way I drive, the EV is universally better. My road trips have been more relaxing, pleasant and no more time consuming. At home I have a full ‘tank’ every morning. I understand this isn’t the case for you. But please don’t tell others it isn’t the case for them.
  5. Zythryn

    Munro Associates Review of 2024 Model 3

    After trying a car without stalks, I can say I won't be buying any car that has stalks. I get where you are coming from. If I was tied to a feature and a car didn't have it, I wouldn't buy it either. For me, I find I got used to stalkless very quickly, led to fewer mistakes and leaves my...
  6. Zythryn

    How long did it take you to get used to the stalk-less turn signals?

    After 13 miles of driving a Model 3 (Highland) I find I prefer them. My hands don’t need to move away from the wheel. The buttons can be felt without looking. I understand this is different from the Model S. I do hope that changes for the S as I feel the implementation on the 3 is safer. I...
  7. Zythryn

    Angela Chao accident

    For me, it is more intuitive to move my hand up to go forward and down for reverse. I have made an error with the stalks on occasion because of this odd (IMO) setup. Most of my past cars had shifters on the transmission tunnel. I also am a gamer where ‘up’ almost always means ‘forward’ unless...
  8. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    @balline For as much information and speculation I would recommend the waiting room: Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room Some possibilities include: Your specifications isn’t being built yet. Tesla has an incorrect phone number for you. You can get lots of insights in the above thread.
  9. Zythryn

    Angela Chao accident

    I believe mistaking forward and reverse would be less likely with the screen shifting. I say this as someone who has only used it once, upon picking up my new Model 3. It was easy to get used to, although not as quick as stalks.
  10. Zythryn

    Electric vehicles release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment than gas-powered cars: study

    I hate this type of comment. It is a variation of a strawman argument. The pollution from electrical generation is addressed in every report I have seen on the overall greenhouse gas contribution of cars. Yes, the EPA measures car emissions and not grid emission. However, they have never...
  11. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    To those reaching the end of your rope, please, please, please speak with a manager. Let them know why you are moving on and what would have kept you as a customer. There is so much that is phenomenal about Tesla, but their communication can be absolutely awful.
  12. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    I understand your frustration, but all SA's are giving you the "truth". It may be that the date changes, but they are giving you the information they have. The best thing you can do, is go in, ask to speak with a manager, and let them know how frustrating it is to have all the changed EDD...
  13. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    Most recent EDD was Mar 8th-17th. Got a notice today to schedule delivery, which I did of course. DD is now Mar 9th! :-) SR RWD, Ultra Red, Black interior, 18” Photon wheels. OD 1/10 EDD changes 5? (I lost count) Hang in there guys, its happening :)
  14. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    So I went from VIN, EDD 3-2 to 3-16 to no VIN, EDD 2-23 to 3-6 to VIN assigned, EDD 3-8 to 3-17. I’m not getting my hopes up, and I am not finalizing payment until I can inspect the car. RWD, Ultra Red, Black interior, 18” Photon wheels.
  15. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    Lost my VIN as well. My most recent EDD was Mar 2- Mar 9. When the VIN disappeared, my EDD also changed to Feb 23rd - Mar 6th. Very odd, thinking of swinging by the Tesla store tomorrow. (RWD-Ultra Red-Black interior-18” Photon Wheels) Order Date 1/10
  16. Zythryn

    Protecting Your Tesla From Theft

    Until you know how the Teslas were stolen, your options are limited to basic, good practices. For all you know, the 11 Tesla owners all left their cars unlocked with a valet card in the car. PIN to drive is an excellent option as even if they have a key, they can’t drive without the PIN...
  17. Zythryn

    Is Tesla's "estimated 3-year gas savings" claim misleading?

    Again, the significance to that varies widely. To me, that has no significance what so ever. If you do nothing but use Superchargers it makes a big difference. Luckily, you can change the cost of electricity to match your specific use case.
  18. Zythryn

    Is Tesla's "estimated 3-year gas savings" claim misleading?

    Perhaps I should have been more specific. To be more accurate I should have said: “I have spoken to hundreds of people, in person, over the last 13 years, that were under the impression that charging at home was more expensive than gasoline.” It is very true that road tripping can be about the...
  19. Zythryn

    Is Tesla's "estimated 3-year gas savings" claim misleading?

    They still do, it is available after clicking on the details of the ‘potential savings’. I hate the leeway auto dealers are given in this country to deceive customers. Tesla’s example hear is the smallest offense compared to all the other shenanigans. I want that info & calculator available...
  20. Zythryn

    Don't get a ticket with Tesla Insurance

    As I understand it, that is exactly what Tesla does. The only state they don’t do this in is California. My understanding is this is due to CA state laws.
  21. Zythryn

    Is Tesla's "estimated 3-year gas savings" claim misleading?

    They list “potential savings”. Tesla also allows you to change the estimated annual mileage, cost of gas, and cost of electricity to recalculate. The ONLY issue I have is that the default when you load the page is to show the price with savings. I would much rather have the active tab default...
  22. Zythryn

    What are your home electricity rates?

    Rates can be tricky. I have a mix of flat rates and per kWh rates. The flat rates, IMO should not be included. In my case, my solar produces enough to cover the electricity rates plus all other fees. The net metering is pegged to the electricity rates, so it will continue to cover the costs...
  23. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    Latest update today. OD: 1/10 Ultra Red, SR/RWD, 18" Photon wheels, black interior Vin assigned :) EDD now March 2-9th (latest was Feb 21-Mar 6th. Minnesota
  24. Zythryn

    Autopilot/FSD Pedestrian Accident

    That will be a possible argument. What he said in the initial interview with police will be telling. Did he say he was unaware of striking anything? Or of striking a person? Tough to claim he was unaware of striking anything when you repair your car. Also, as I recall, the police report...
  25. Zythryn

    Autopilot/FSD Pedestrian Accident

    This to me is the most significant factor. If he did do this, it shows knowledge of the event and an attempt to hide it. To me, that speaks volumes.
  26. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    Latest update: Feb 21st - March 6 Bummer that the first day got pushed back, great that I am back to a two week window. Awesome that I could get my delivery on my birthday (22nd)!! This is for a SR Red, 18” photon wheels, black interior.
  27. Zythryn

    How to advocate for EVs?

    In Minnesota, pumping gas in a blizzard is something everyone understands. It is very easy for people to understand it when I say my favorite thing is not standing in a blizzard pumping gas. Probably my shortest line, which usually leads to them asking questions, is “my EV is just so damn...
  28. Zythryn

    How to advocate for EVs?

    I have found that sharing my own experiences is better than a data-sheet. Also, finding out their situation can be very helpful. Chatting with another two car household with a garage where they can charge is very different than talking with a college student in a dorm.
  29. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    A child on insurance will definitely kick that up a notch. If you are willing to play around with the deductible or other specifics you may be able to lower the cost some. The rate for my wife's Y is about $115/month. However, we are in a different state, no kids and may have different...
  30. Zythryn

    Why do you like your Tesla?

    I would add that I really don’t like dealing with traditional auto dealers. I also hate the amount of political power they wield to the detriment of the consumer.
  31. Zythryn

    120MPGe is it really?…

    Yep, over a typical winter my Prius would loose ~20% efficiency, my former Model 3 about 30%.
  32. Zythryn

    120MPGe is it really?…

    I agree that information is useful, as long as the efficiency loss of both ICE and BEVs are shown. I very much liked the range estimate page Tesla used to have which allowed you to change wheel size, temperature, etc.
  33. Zythryn

    Stranded due to stuck windows

    I’ve been driving Teslas for over 13 years, my wife has owned one for over 10. Neither of us has ever experienced that type of error (I hope that is helpful). As for the service call, I have experienced calls being moved up, or even resolved remotely through a software fix. I am not saying...
  34. Zythryn

    120MPGe is it really?…

    Not when you are comparing efficiency. As long as you use the same measuring stick, it doesn't matter how far the measurement from your personal experiences are. An EV is twice as efficient as a hybrid which is twice as efficient as a run of the mill ICE (made up numbers). It is the relative...
  35. Zythryn

    120MPGe is it really?…

    If you could show us how you calculated that, we might be able to answer your question. In short, no, MPGe is not a gimmick. MPGe is a mathematical conversion. It converts the electricity used to propel a vehicle into a miles per gallon equivalent. MPGe has nothing to do with cost, it is...
  36. Zythryn

    Why do they call an OTA update a recall? (24V051000)

    It wouldn’t be hard, but why add confusion? A “recall” is in no way qualified by how difficult the process is. I’ve had recalls that required I leave the car with the dealer for the day, and others that required a 2 minute check. We don’t have subcategories for that. The important thing is...
  37. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    I’m in the Midwest. My EDD went from Jan-Feb, to Jan 31st-Feb 29th, to Feb 6th-Feb 20th and then back to a month long Feb 11th-March 10th. From the general trend it follows, but it isn’t universal.
  38. Zythryn

    250wh per pile to get performance rated range of 315 miles

    Here is an article that spells it all out rather well. It is a bit old, but still applies. https://chargedevs.com/features/the-challenges-of-battery-state-of-charge-measurements/
  39. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    Bummer… OD: 1/10 EDD: Jan-Feb updated to Feb 2-16 updated today (1-30) to Feb 11- Mar 10th RWD standard, Ultra Red, Black interior, 18” wheels
  40. Zythryn

    250wh per pile to get performance rated range of 315 miles

    My understanding is that measuring the pack voltage is not an exact thing. As such, you will always get an estimate. In addition, the car can’t ‘know’ exactly how you are going to drive, and in what environment. If you want the nitty gritty, check out the energy graph. It will give you a...
  41. Zythryn

    250wh per pile to get performance rated range of 315 miles

    Not sure about generalities. This EV owner would like the test that measures more than a single aspect of efficiency. If you want highway only efficiency, use the highway rating.
  42. Zythryn

    Drove the Highland Yesterday.

    The RWD and AWD have different sound systems. My understanding is it is a noticeable difference.
  43. Zythryn

    250wh per pile to get performance rated range of 315 miles

    Sometimes that is unavoidable. Get stuck in rush hours, watch your average speed drop. Driving through downtown? Watch your average speed drop. Expecting to get EPA results, only driving on the highway, will most often lead to disappointment.
  44. Zythryn

    250wh per pile to get performance rated range of 315 miles

    I think the poster gave you the reason. Lower air density (high altitude). The tire change may have also helped. The EPA number is a test with set conditions. If you drive under the identical conditions you will get the same results. The differences you have mentioned so far include the...
  45. Zythryn

    Is the MY the best Tesla vehicle?

    Very well said. People using “best” as an objective term is actually a pet peeve of mine. Lo and behold I did it myself!! Edited my former post to make that more clear.
  46. Zythryn

    Is the MY the best Tesla vehicle?

    I find it funny that no one has mentioned the other quality of the 3 some may prefer. The Model 3 is simply smaller. This is one of the main reasons I have one on order now. Until the Model Y refresh comes out, the 3 also is quieter, and has a gentler suspension (which some of us prefer). That...
  47. Zythryn

    Buyer Beware! Tesla Ups Price on order by $1790.00 and And Does not Refund Order fee of $250.00!!

    The first two orders had no difference in the vehicle price. The cost difference was for the line item: ‘Price adjustment’. Was this a trade-in offer? Or a vehicle trade-in, or something else?
  48. Zythryn

    Model 3 Highland (US) Waiting room

    Updated dates on mine show Feb-2 to Feb-16! As an aside, I’m hoping prior to Feb-11 as I have Jury duty starting the 12th.
  49. Zythryn

    Tesla Owners, Let's Talk: Touchscreen vs. Physical Buttons - What's Your Take?

    Your response above was to a statement that the Tesla auto wipers work better than in most cars and basically worked well. That is all I was responding to, not your original argument which used a different requirement of "perfect". As for your response to "as well or better", no, the absolute...
  50. Zythryn

    Tesla Owners, Let's Talk: Touchscreen vs. Physical Buttons - What's Your Take?

    The use of absolutes is generally a bad choice if you want your position to be thoughtfully considered. Their experience matches this member of the “anyone” group, with most cars I have had. Likewise, the auto temp setting has worked very well for us as well. People that don’t have issues...