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I didn't have latest 10.69 when that happened to me, but I'm pretty sure it would slam the gate. No speed reduction. I think it was I-95 for me too, going south to Myrtle Beach. Or back north, can't remember.

haha!—happened to me, too. It's one of the 2 events that I cheerfully refer to as “times FSD tried to kill me”. The other one was similar: gate down on train tracks.

And then controlled testing is criticized because it doesn't represent reality lol Nonetheless, we have had both (Tesla simulations + Tesla reports + NHTSA reports). Tesla leads on survivability rates and is pretty high up there on crashes per kMiles, if my memory doesn't fail me. (But before...

@ Mods: This is not snippy. I'll repost. It's pretty damn accurate if you ask me. Whatever dude. I don't even know why I am arguing with you. You're the only one who is disagreeing with me. Even after I addressed all the points, you still claim I said something I didn't. Your interpretation is...

This much we already know, unless green is wrong on his tweet (see original post on this thread). Also Elon stated no retrofitting because cost.

@EVNow told you! Shouldn’t have contradicted the head of engineering, finance, logistics and manufacturing of Tesla!

I’m not sure I follow. The main discussion is additional cameras in new places, referred to as new cameras. If you mean new as in higher res, or manufactured more recently, then yes I agree. Otherwise I’d like you to please expand on that because I’m interested on how you took the news in the...

Beware: he’s right; you’re wrong.

Whatever dude. I don't even know why I am arguing with you. You're the only one who is disagreeing with me. Even after I addressed all the points, you still claim I said something I didn't. Your interpretation is wrong. Period, end of story. As for form factor. This is how I see you, now: But...

(moderator edit) I did not suggest it's a minor change. I did not suggest a thing. I linked to an article that says there's no additional cameras / different camera placements. (moderator edit) Yeah yeah... We all know that, after all you can't just make a 2016 model a 2020 model, of any car...

Wrong. See post #2 on this thread. Way to go cutting off my quote to your soul's desires. Elon was vague, Green was specific. Still, form factor if you interpret. "The first is that there will be no significant difference between how HW3 and HW4 performs in terms of Full Self-Driving" What...

I suggest what? What is your point? The computer FORM FACTOR is prohibitive, according to Elon / Green. I read nothing else as being a reason. HW2 was (IIRC) upgraded to HW3 in order to fulfill the promise of self driving capable hardware. Knowing that, HW3 was probably created in the same form...

notateslaapp: "Confirmed: Tesla HW4 Will Not Include New Cameras or Updated Placements" https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1217/confirmed-tesla-hw4-will-not-include-bumper-cameras-or-new-placements Seems like HW4 is mostly designed to accommodate other vehicles (Semi?) that require more cameras...

I wouldn't jump to conclusions and would encourage people not to as well. This is interesting, and I'm sure we'll learn more come March 1st. It's unlikely (even impossible) they don't have satisfactory answers to these questions.

I guess I overestimated 🤷‍♂️ but still, close enough!

I beg to differ. My analogy was so good it basically needed no words at all. I bet if I posted just the picture, it would be understood.

For that specific case, I think a good analogy is Tesla cars and an add-on being the FSD package. But if you abstract that to "not getting what you thought you'd get, because advertisement vs product", I believe I have a good analogy for you: Big Mac.

You guys have a REALLY hard time with analogy, don't you?

It's funny how it always converges to that. We all know it, yet, some of us keep yelling “IT'S NOT DONE I SOLD MY CAR AND NEVER SAW IT I WANT MY MONEY BACK”. And then it dies. And then some Elon hating site throws him on the fire again, someone creates a thread that links to it, and we have the...

I like the Big Mac analogy better. Marketing / Advertisement 101. Yours was too long and specific, but I guess it has its own value, too. See, you had to explain yours in like 5-6 paragraphs, and I still don't get it. I posted a picture (almost out of context) and I think everyone knew instantly.

Thanks for adding that, I never heard the term, and it makes perfect sense to this context. All I see are my tax dollar and stonks being wasted lol

My whole point is: not only I don't care, but it doesn't matter. Mercedes-Benz had an ad for a self driving car in 2017. It's marketing. This investigation and McD and MB and and and all sum up butt hurt people that fell for advertisement.

This is a Big Mac

Found the (a related?) video from that! Not an OBD "clean" way to do it, but I guess it counts LOL

I think today that would be prohibited. Or borderline. Brakes and Steer cannot be mechanically disconnected. Although, Toyota has a few cars out there with Steer by Wire (SbW). Elon hinted at progressive steering and then SbW before. In fact, I read somewhere that it's in the works, but don't...

In one of the demo videos, I saw a MB engineer saying that they'd take responsibility for any accidents while on L3. All in all, I think this is great news! Not because I think this is a great technological accomplishment by MB, but a bureaucratic accomplishment, opening the door for other...

This. Everything else is FUD.

(Not) Thanks, but that's not what I wrote. If I can't have my words spoken, please delete the whole thread. EDIT: Also you can't type.

Well, the thread is here and will stay. I'm unwatching this. Also taking another break. You guys are always more inclined to discuss verbiage than the actual theme. We could be excited about Smart Summon and the funny ASS acronym for it. We could be excited that this is the first time a tracker...

My post clearly means it's on TeslaFi. Its existence is known. What happened to this forum? I remember exchanging news and experiences, now most people are just salty. No wonder I took a break. Look at the first 2 replies...

Today :)

Internal tester only, but, it EXISTS! https://www.teslafi.com/firmware.php?detail=2022.44.25.20%20b65011

Same here, ever since 10.69.3, I was not able to autopark, even once. I won't argue if it's good or bad, but I used to use it almost daily at work lol

We all know that Tesla would be investigated "for not being smart enough to stop that"

True. And if I'm being honest, I haven't heard of a single car with those features.

Kind of bummed to have to say this, but we all do. It's called a joke.

Sometimes I just want to ragequit:

Correct, so you can finish driving, put your car in your pocket and walk away with a clean conscience that it'll be safe-for-work-content-only when you decide to casually browse the internet on it. +1 Tesla please implement.

1 post. Seems legit.

Typing with my feet, hand are busy clapping.

No, 2022.8.x

That's really good I doubt you'll be left out!

Your chances look good! How many miles have you racked up?

You get a welcome email and an update at the exact same time when you're accepted. The fun part is accepting the terms in the car and driving for your Safety Score!

We already lost entertainment for the passenger (Solitaire, Polytopia, Shoot em Up) - like passengers can't play on their phones / tablets? Now we lose Boombox which was really fantastic and underrated - like people can't open the window and scream? Please pick your votes more carefully next time.

Beta is 10.5 while production is 10.2 :)

Yes, they replaced it for me. Took a while but it was done.

10.6 is out. But it’s still the 2021.36 branch. 2021.36.8.9 to be exact.

Didn't we get 10.5 early? I would expect 10.6 by next weekend.