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    Elon & Twitter

    The employees may be fantastic but they are being fantastically mismanaged. How many people do you deal with between ordering and delivery? What about service? How's that process and experience? Where is the customer service? Everything at Tesla is designed to limit human interaction and to turn...
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    Elon & Twitter

    What about posting Elon's personal property address? That is also public information to anyone who combs the county tax rolls… People who don't want their kids affected by their day jobs should probably not post their underaged kids' photos on public social media. Just a thought. I don't think...
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    Elon & Twitter

    Elon Musk is killing the Tesla brand. Tesla Board should sideline Musk until he appoints a CEO at Twitter. Musk has somehow convinced the weak board that he is too critical to Tesla's success. It's actually quite the opposite. Why is the Tesla Board asleep? Musk only owns 13% of TSLA shares...
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    Elon & Twitter

    Why is there zero focus on the fact that Elon Musk has Asperger Syndrome? How can that not be a factor in what's happening? The symptoms of Asperger's describe Elon to a T and also offer an insight into the communication issues at Tesla. I think this needs to be discussed.
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    On this extremely overpriced car, yes it is. I'm actually here to give therapy to you and the rest. Much needed honestly and reality for all the cult members.
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    Elon & Twitter

    I'm not sure who you were responding to, but I sold my Model S earlier this year (at peak value) and am taking delivery of my BMW iX at the end of this month or early next. There is absolutely no comparison between a Tesla of any value to a German brand. Absolutely none. If you don't understand...
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    Elon & Twitter

    My sister would as well. We may be on to something here.
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    The credit unions I've surveyed have used car rates comparable to their new vehicle rates, or just very slightly higher. Yes, the overall interest one is paying is important, but I believe for most Model 3/Y buyers it is the monthly payment that is most important. $50/mo is a few less...
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    Elon & Twitter

    Tesla's Board of Directors Asleep at the Wheel While on Autopilot TSLA's stock value has been in a downward spiral since Musk started the Twitter obsession, purchased Twitter, and voiced every form of political and nonsensical opinion. Despite Tesla posting record deliveries and profits. Elon...
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    One can always find travel situations that fit one scenario and not the other. In my case driving would make zero sense and be quite frustrating. Even when I drove ICE I would rarely take road trips instead of flying. Different strokes and not at all a reason to keep me tied to Tesla when there...
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    Removal of Auto Park From Existing 2022 Y

    In my experience, no, they do not. Tesla is a very dysfunctional organization because, well, we all know why.
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    Fortunately, the equity people had was inflated. So it's just coming back down to where it was before. No, it's not the interest rates. Have you actually done the math? The payment difference on 5-year $50,000 loan at 1.99% versus today's market rate of 4.25% is only $50/mo. That's not going to...
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    Yes as long as the cars stay within the price limits and those applying for the credit do not exceed the annual income threshold. I don't know about the LFP models because those cells come from China. The Y/3 are extremely overpriced as it is. Giving customers a paltry $3,750 seems inadequate at...
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    Politics - Quarantine Thread

    How about fascist? I prefer this slur for its outright accuracy. I'm so sorry that you get offended when Elon Musk is called out on being a terrible human being. What makes one align oneself with terrible people? Elon Musk should be prosecuted for endless labor violations, slander, market...
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    Removal of Auto Park From Existing 2022 Y

    Tesla loves to raise prices and take away features. They love to milk their customers. Then, barely a handful of months later, they sign a deal for a new radar and camera suite. IOW Tesla aka Elon Musk love to screw their existing customers. I hope you like bending over.
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    Battery loss when parked

    Tesla is the only EV that experiences so much vampire loss. BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and the like have almost 0 vampire loss. Tesla has a lot to learn.
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    Tesla is experiencing a tidal wave of cancellations right now because the tax credit kicks-in in less than 3 weeks. Who would want to take delivery now? That's why Tesla is offering $3,750 off on every 3/Y being delivered this month. Customers are still leaving $3,750 on the table, though, and...
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    Tesla cannot survive without repeat purchases. If Elon Musk thinks Tesla's reputation (which is already ruined, btw) doesn't matter he's in for a rude awakening. He sure is the dumbest genius I've ever followed. The most basic concepts escape his low IQ. I sold my S and am waiting on a brand...
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    Have you been to any non-Tesla EV forums? There are a lot of customers out there who will never buy a Tesla. Ever. And it's because of Tesla's reputation for poor build quality, crap service, and a lunatic CEO. Those who say reputation doesn't matter are in for a big surprise as Tesla loses...
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    Anyone hoping for fancier interiors, HUDs, instrument clusters, and air suspensions will be disappointed. None of those support reduction in cost and complexity. Elon wants to sell you a go-cart.
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    Benefits to Delayed Delivery

    The X is not better tech. It's still outdated manufacturing process and the tech is at least one generation behind Model Y in terms of what you can't see. Two generations behind on battery cells, still can't supercharge as fast as 3/Y, and as far as I can tell Tesla did nothing to update the...
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    Benefits to Delayed Delivery

    You do realize that the HUD is not part of the windshield, right? lol And this would be covered under typical vehicle insurance glass coverage.
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    Just sold my Model Y - Parting thoughts

    Actually there is quite a bit of BMW iX content here. Or were you not aware? Try doing a search. I don't understand the provincial thinking being expressed above. 🙊 🙉 🙈
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    What other EV SUVs have you considered?

    BMW iX all the way! We test drove one and ordered it immediately. It handles better than any Tesla, has proper sound insulation and is quieter than anything on the road (can't even hear the wind), and accelerates like a badass. You will realize all that is missing in a Tesla driving experience...
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    BMW iX

    BMW IX IS AN INCREDIBLE CAR! I test drove the iX 50 and ordered the M60 (real M version). It rides on rails and handles better than anything Tesla makes. Tech is light years ahead of Tesla, too, in all the ways that matter for a superior driving experience. You don't know what you've been...
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    Why does Tesla suspension suck so bad?

    I'm not sure which is sadder, actually. The assertions or the person being triggered by those assertions?
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    BMW using a brushed motor

    Tesla owners: 🙈 🙉 🙊 The iX 50 (not even the "real M EV" M60 version) handles far better than any Tesla. I don't know what BMW is doing with the suspension but it's light years ahead of anything Tesla is able to hobble together. You should go drive one if you aren't afraid of falling out of love...
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    Why does Tesla suspension suck so bad?

    Easy answer: Tesla doesn't know how to make a car. Batteries? Sure. Drivetrain? No problem. But the actual bits that sit atop the skateboard? No love. As an exercise, visit a car by a manufacturer who actually cares about vehicle dynamics and the driving experience. You might be shocked by what...
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    Original owners of 2012/2013 Model S w/ 85 kWh pack: Has your main pack been replaced?

    Thank you to everyone for responding to my poll over the last several months. The stats of almost half of 2012/2013 owners replacing their main pack is horrifying. I recently sold my Model S and have a BMW iX M60 on order.
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    Just sold my Model Y - Parting thoughts

    I don't know where you've been, but "legacy" (a term used pejoratively by Tesla owners to marginalize) has already caught up. BMW iX has comparable range to Model X in real world conditions and destroys it in almost every metric that matters to those who care about vehicle dynamics, passenger...
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    Just sold my Model Y - Parting thoughts

    Today I would prefer the i4 M50 to the Model 3 hands down. No contest. Checking out the BMW EV forums it appears most are former Tesla owners who are tired of the "Cult of Tesla", the poor build quality, and the lousy service experience. Tesla is heading towards troubled waters in terms of its...
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    Just sold my Model Y - Parting thoughts

    It's hilarious that some don't see the irony in recommending smaller wheels as a fix for a suspension issue. With a Tesla you have to choose between comfort and sporty feel. With other brands like BMW, you get both. If you're relying on wheels—the point of contact between the vehicle and the...
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    BMW using a brushed motor

    That is a mischaracterization of my statement. For those who are interested in having an actual discussion, this was my statement: "The supercharger network is meaningless to me for the few and far between road trips that we take." Hopefully you can see the difference between hyperbole (yours)...
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    BMW using a brushed motor

    Coasting is more efficient than regen for longest range. Using regen is only 64% efficient accounting for conversion losses going into the battery and then back out of the battery. In situations when you don't need to stop the car or slow it down, the BMW motor is more efficient. Keeping Tesla's...
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    BMW using a brushed motor

    No bashing. I came upon this thread while performing research and felt that I needed to post the actual facts for the record. Otherwise someone else doing research like myself might believe the inaccurate narrative being promoted here. I owned my model S for over 8 years and have a lot of...
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    BMW using a brushed motor

    I get that this is a Tesla echo chamber and to expect irrational negativity towards other brands, but the banter here couldn't be more uninformed. BMW's motors are 3-phase AC synchronous motors and the brush is of a slip ring design that only delivers a small DC excitation current to the rotor...
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    Vendor Tesla Model S Battery Extended Service Plans from 057 Technology

    THANK YOU for answering my questions, for being so responsive to everyone, and for being an incredibly valuable resource to our community over the years. You are also breathing new life into my 8 year old car and adding value should I decide to sell it by making your warranty transferrable.
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    Vendor Tesla Model S Battery Extended Service Plans from 057 Technology

    My apologies if this has been covered... If, after paying for the service plan, the BMD device shows a pre-existing issue that did not trigger a visible error to the owner, is it still covered? If not, do you refund the cost of the warranty?
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    Maximum battery charge level reduced

    Tesla lied to you and I would file a complaint with your state attorney general's office. Tesla service is actually far worse than any traditional dealership model. Your warranty specifically states that you will receive a battery with comparable range to your old battery. If you wait 6-8 weeks...
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    Drive unit damaged after driving in heavy rain -- SC won't cover under warranty

    I recommend first filing a formal complaint with the NY State Attorney General for Tesla's refusal to honor its warranty. If that doesn't lead to a resolution, take them to small claims court. Blow this up on social media. Basically, you should do anything and everything to make Tesla's life a...
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    I have some clear fluid from front of car that tastes acidic. Any ideas what it might be ?

    If you do that with coolant that contains Ethylene Glycol you could end up at the ER. Please don't taste liquids coming out of your vehicle, that's just not a good idea.
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    Plaid owner experience: Melted chargeport, Passenger door pops open while driving, AP Cameras bugged. 21 days in service in first month of ownership.

    I'd be in a rage if I were you. Please blow this up on Twitter and social media. Elon Musk deserves to get seriously spanked over this. Plaid is obviously (to anyone who pays attention) a half-assed and rushed release designed to placate Elon Musk's ego after being crushed by Porsche at...
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    Model S Technical / Mechanical Issues

    I think you should take Tesla to small claims court and show the judge your email. I think you'd win in a hot minute.
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    Plaid Safety

    Tesla's half-assed refresh is a driving enthusiast disaster of the highest order. It's not even a proper redesign, but a half-baked drive train shoehorned into an old, outdated production process with 10 year old bits and pieces strewn about. Maybe Tesla should focus group some of these changes...
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    An honest review of the yoke

    The yoke is a joke... a terrible, awful joke Musk is playing on people willing to part with $100k+. Musk shows an especially acute disdain for his high end customers. Check out this Edmund's review and how dangerous it is to drive curves and switchbacks with a rectangle. Most everything in this...
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    Model S Plaid: Paint chipping on Rear quarter panel and doors

    What happens when a company puts out an untested, half-baked, half-assed product made in a factory filled with unhappy employees? I wonder...
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    Any third party, LED rear tail lights for the Model S instead of the crappy, 2000s looking ones we have?

    The biggest secret Tesla hasn't told anyone is how little effort they put into the Model S "refresh" exterior. Even the headlights are the terrible ones from 2016 that failed IIHS tests and were rated POOR. Same tail lights from 9 years ago. Model X has newer and better light function. I don't...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    WK057 is probably the most knowledgeable member of the Tesla ownership base. People who don't believe him and continue to trash him because his facts don't fit with their personal beliefs also are not vaccinated, engage in conspiracy theories, and those issues likely pervade all aspects of their...
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    R.I.P. Tesla Referral Program

    I would never refer anyone to buy a Tesla after what they have done to owners of 85 kWh batteries—halving of Supercharging speed to keep the batteries from catching fire—and not issuing a recall. Tesla does not do right by its customers, especially early adopters, and uses software cover-ups to...
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    A yoke or a joke?

    If you want a good Plaid review by someone who is a normal human being that doesn't drink Tesla Koolaid... This quote about the Plaid is spot-on, but fanboys may need to clutch their pearls: Watch how impossible it is to steer and corner properly. The yoke is a joke. A terrible, horrible...