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Its amazing to me that people actually think full level 5 ie robotaxi is even possible with the current hardware. Just goes to show that PT Barnum is alive and well in this thread.

I passed on FSD for $1k years ago, no reason to waste money on it now.

Y'all are looking at this the wrong way. You are looking at what the usage and impact of robotaxis will be without actually looking at the bare reality. Robotaxi (full level 5 autonomy) will *never* be a reality with Teslas tech stack. Elon is just selling hope at this point without any basis...

There is literally *no* difference in pedestrian safety with the Cybertruck and any of the other millions of heavy trucks on the road. Zero.

If you pay the MyQ subscription you can use that otherwise its use a clicker or wait for them to offer homelink addon like the 3/Y.

1. Oh please, ct on Mars is ridiculous and a pipe dream. No sane person actually thought that to be true. 2. Not click bait, a lot is rail dust but rust *has* been happening as well. 3. Not click bait, real world tests with actual objective numbers are not click bait. Try living in reality...

No, essentially never. Of course you said nothing about temp in the post I was replying to...

Something's wrong then. My 3 doesn't do anything of the sort.

Just saw a 3rd listed in Flower Mound at 656/day. I figure about 5-10 more show up on there and the price will come down fast.

There are 2 listed on Turo for Dallas area. I'm just waiting for the price to come down to ~300 and I'll rent one to try out before I convert my reservation to an order.

I believe all current 3s and Ys no longer have homelink.

I assume you mean shill?

I agree pretty much whole heartedly with everything you said except the above statement. I don't really see any advantages on the CT. I actually think for the price that the R1T and 150L are better vehicles (other than access to the supercharger network). The other new technologies aren't...

The pricing is pretty simple, they had too much demand. Rumored 2 million reservations and ~200k a year production gives them 10 years to work through the reservation list. It is readily apparent that they were going to raise prices. What is ridiculous is Elon saying the 150L is too expensive...

No not even remotely.

Not all of us. I'm a Tesla fanboy for sure, owner, CT res holder, stock owner, etc. I still call out the CT as shitting the bed on delivery event. As originally promised it was a strong competitor for ICE trucks. Now as it is, its worse than its EV competitors for most people's use cases and...

Yes, I am well aware of this, I was explaining to the poster I replied to who obviously had no clue. :) It is entirely reasonable for pricing to change over a 4 year period. Changing from "competitive with gas trucks" to "worse than other EV trucks" is just silly. But with that said I do...

No it isn't. Sub vs super sonic is a function of the bullet weight (grains) and the powder used. The most common loads for 45 acp are subsonic yes, but not by definition as you can load it supersonic.

Tesla moderates the price of their vehicles according to demand. Pre-launch demand for the CT was ~10 *years* of production already in reservations. They obviously had too much demand for their ability to provide the supply, hence the stupidly high prices at launch. If demand increases they...

You couldn't be more offensive or more wrong with your ridiculously bigoted opinion. I'm conservative and I drive a pickup truck. I also own a model 3 and Tesla stock and had a cybertruck reservation. I love Teslas because they are better than their gas counterparts. The cybertruck isn't...

That isn't quite true. They will certainly monitor the conversion rate (IE converting reservations to orders) and that will tell them how the new pricing is being received. If the conversion rate is say 80% they'll be thrilled. If the conversion rate is 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 they will realize...

How can any living human think that was anything other than an unmitigated disaster? The lighting was so terrible you couldn't even see Elon as he was talking. The baseball was embarrassing and would have been better to just skip entirely...or hell throw steel balls and break the windows again...

Success? I'm seeing polls where over half the reservation holders are now saying they are not going to order or wait and see if prices come down. They built up a ton of interest and then under-delivered across the board. Elon literally said that the Lightning was too expensive and now is...

https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck No 500 mile range is a huge fail for me. Extremely disappointed.

Austin, where it is being built, doesn't have one yet!

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Older comment but this is an incredibly under appreciated point. The #1 question I am asked when hiring Software Engineers is if the position is full time remote or not. They don't care about hybrid they want remote. Properly managed they are more effective remote as well. Requiring in...

Did you know that the top of the line cybertruck is going to be <70k and have a 500 mile range? I mean it was announced so its definitely true right? Posting well known future plans doesn't have any effect at all on today's trucks.

If Rivian could use the supercharger network and I believed they would stay in business I would by an R1T over a CT without hesitation. I think its a great looking truck, the perfect size and features.

Good point, I did mean fleet truck and was not specific with my wording. The CT is not a good fit for either fleet or work trucks would be a better way to phrase my comment. As for your pricing comment, totally irrelevant. The original prices announced in 2019 are too much to make it a fleet...

Come on folks, its obvious that the Cybertruck is not designed or priced as a work truck. There's nothing at all wrong with that but can we all stop pretending that it is and complaining about missing work truck features?

There is no way the quad will be 90+k. In 2019 the top trim was announced at 69k you're talking about almost 50% more than its announced price! Literally every single Tesla has less than a 10k increase (and in many cases gone *down* in price) since 2019. 79k is the most logical price point...

I see people saying this all the time and it just isn't an accurate complaint. The reason I say that is the vast majority of 'normal' pickups have sides that are too high to reach over without stepping on side steps or the wheels. If you have to step up already just step up on the CT and its...

What absolutely shocks the hell out of me is that Tesla is even *talking* robotaxi. (And apparently Elon is still pushing for a controller less car for some insane reason...) In order to accommodate a robotaxi scenario FSD will have to be solved to 100%. It has to account for everything it...

I love your posts in this sub. They are informational and, as far as I can tell, polite and full of value. Candidly one of the better posters here IMO, and appreciated.

Buy the car but don't burn money on FSD. The car is great, FSD is garbage and just a way to part suckers from their money.

That's simply not true. If another car runs a red light and hits me they are at fault. I might have been able to stop and avoid the accident entirely. So what if (purely hypothetically) the not at-fault accidents revealed that waymo cars are terrible at avoiding accidents even when not at-fault?

Huh? What the hell are you talking about? You literally said the inferior configuration is ergonomically acceptable if the car uses the inferior steering mechanism. No, just no to literally everything you said. No no no no and no.

Two points, first FSD promises are totally different from product pricing announcements. One is vaporware and lies that they know the other is an actual product price. Second, I never said nor implied that the price would "hold" to the launch pricing I was saying the pricing relative to other...

There is no "spot" to lose. When they open up configuration for you if you don't configure you just come back when you are ready.

You are neglecting the fact that they already announced the CT tri motor in 2019 at 70k. The rest of the fleet have prices today within ~10k of 2019 prices so adding 38k to the price would just be a ridiculous outlier. You can think all you want but they already showed that they intend to do...

The previously announced price was 70k for the tri and the S plaid was what 140, 150 back then? So they have already announced the tri CT to be less. Adding 50% to the cost just won't happen.

Original price for tri was 70k. When you compare other teslas already out in 2019 their prices now are, in some cases less, in some cases a little under 10k more today. Having the tri release at under 80k to qualify for the tax credit is a very believable price point. Remember going from 79k...

Thanks for your clarification, appreciate the context. I would say that manually disengaging the auto-steer by taking over the wheel is still disengaging. The driving scenario you describe is actually a worse experience than just driving without autopilot at all, for me. Physically moving...

Well said, I think people forget or don't even realize that your perspective (which I share) is the majority of pickup buyers.

From Tesla's perspective why would they support that? The battery system is the highest cost part of the vehicle so this would only make sense if Tesla saved more in cost than they spent.

Huh? So you disengage it on every on/off ramp and then re-engage? That's the only way to stop the lane centering problem with merging lanes. Also there is no "working together", either you are in control or the car is. Yes you can and should take over but driving with autopilot is literally...

Funny you should mention that, the "blue oval" network is one of the biggest reasons that Tesla should keep their network closed. That network and the "required" chargers to be installed are so insufficient, low quality, and poorly maintained that they are just a farce. Take a look sometime at...

If added charging revenue is < sales lost revenue the harm is loss of revenue. Fair enough I haven't demonstrated that point, candidly I felt it was self evident. Obviously we have no sales numbers as it has not happened yet but right now the supercharger network is objectively the best...

I have to agree with OP and several others in this thread, I think this is a huge mistake for Tesla. Going further I think this opens them up to a class action lawsuit by shareholders. Let me explain. A publicly traded companies officers owe a fiduciary duty of loyalty to their shareholders...