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I don't think it was ever a requirement to have had FSD at purchase of the older car. The original terms had a sentence that some were mistakenly parsing that way. " Be the legal and registered owner of a Tesla vehicle that currently has Full Self-Driving capability included at the time of...

For those that have already taken advantage of the transfer offer how does your new Model Y compare with your older Tesla? How did the delivery experience compare?

I was kinda waiting on Juniper too. But honestly Highland is kinda meh. At the core of a car is the drivetrain/batteries. Highland uses the exact same setup there that the M3 uses. Lots of quality of life updates. One more camera than MY which will help with low speed driving (summon) and...

Highland announced overnight for Europe and Asia. Canada press is claiming that it will not ship in NA until 2024 so that is interesting. For Model Y HW4 discussion purposes - do we know what the HW4 camera situation is other than the bumper camera? For instance does the Highland share camera...

The fact that they announced and offered a SR version of the S and X for just two weeks then discontinued them and moved standard range to an even lower price shows that no-one is at the controls of pricing and offers. We here trying to put logic on what they will do is a fool's task. Being said...

I've been keeping an eye on inventory model y's since the announcement of FSD transfer this quarter. I've been wanting a blue/white example and it has been a desert until this week. Now there are four or six configurations of blue/white at multiple SoCal locations with small to medium discount...

socal_suburbanit posted a new question on the marketplace listing Selling a set of Gemini wheels with covers.

still available? what condition are they in?

I had a visit to local SC and chatted up the sales person. They are on their Tesla sales software which is super basic and they reach a page where the GUI says the Tesla needs a couple options to be eligible. The page apparently calls it ‘firmware’ but is actually referring to option codes. It...

What happens to the 2018 and earlier cars that were sold without any Autopilot at all if they transfer the FSD package to a new car? Do they get the current base Autopilot (which didn't exist when the car was sold originally) or do they revert to their 'as new' status? And if the former am I...

Looking at Teslafi it appears a fresh batch of invites has gone out in the last hour. Fingers crossed they are going out in batches and by tomorrow morning all 99/100 applicants will have invitations.

From what I’ve read in this thread loads of people have gotten the beta with less than seven days of data. I don’t think there is any evidence that Tesla takes time into consideration other than Elons initial tweet. I believe When they are ready to add testers to the fleet they check for...

My four mile round trip drive on surface streets logged 102 FCW on the server! My car is set to ‘Late’ and I had zero notifications during the drive. either their detection is terrible or there is a bug somewhere. fwiw I don’t think there was a single legit warning possible from my drive, I...

Interesting, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Long road ahead for the AP team.

Had the FSD computer upgraded to 3.0 earlier this week and was driving for the first time with the latest software. For two intersections in a row the car swerved away from the median after going through a stop light. The first time there were no cars around and I didn't take control (although...

Had the HS 3.0 computer installed two days ago. The most recent navigation data installed yesterday morning and the car downloaded this update last night around 10pm. Am installing it now. Upgrading from 2020.12.5. FWIW, the download looks to be around 5Gig. Looking forward to seeing the new...

This has been a long time coming. As has been discussed before (but not yet in this thread) there is a sunk cost into every Tesla built of self driving hardware and it makes zero sense to not find a way to monetize that hardware. Subscription/short term activation of FSD does this. I think...

I can't read all 51 pages of this thread-but to those of you debating engine model numbers I suggest you take a step back and consider why Tesla is offering the AWD+ and what it implies. Why is this upgrade cost the same as a stealth P upgrade at the showroom but deliver half the power...

Personally I have had my AWD for a year and bought it expecting some sort of 'uncork' down the line and not wanting to pay the P premium cost. I recently helped a friend get a Stealth P and was excited to see that for just $2k they got the full uncork. I'm puzzled to see near universal acclaim...

If you haven't taken delivery you should ask your advisor if they have any 'stealth P' versions available. You get double the performance bump 0-60 for the same money. Loads of info in the forums if you search. I recently helped steer a friend to this option and the sales team were great about...

My friend that had an AWD on order had no idea these existed until I told him about this thread. He called his SA here in SoCal and upgraded to same color/wheels and should have his Stealth P in short order. So thank you for the info! As an interested party, do we know whether the stealth P...

Why does the Model S get better range with two motors while the Model 3 gets reduced range with two motors? Does the Stealth Performance (same wheels/tires as AWD) get the same range as an AWD if driven the same? ie: the shorter published range assumes some high throttle acceleration that...

Did not drive my car at all yesterday, opened my iOS app once to check on charge level and a couple hours after that was in the garage and could hear a fan that sounds like it is coming from near the top of the frunk near the wind screen. Mirrors were folded in and I peaked in the window and...

Here is why I think we are still years away from FSD-the many departures from Tesla in the last 18 months. Remember that senior positions hold thousands of shares of stock and Tesla would explode in value if they actually delivered just what Elon has predicted. (As I write this we still await...

I live in a hilly neighborhood and have had to keep this feature off since purchase. Going up or down a hill and a car parked near the apex of a slight turn sets it off almost every time.

I had similar issues with that release. 2019.16.2 and the issue has gone away. Park with wifi and you should get the update soon.

Looking at older threads about this the consensus (that i took away) was that if you can afford it AAA is a better bet to get a quick response to a stranded car needing a tow than the Tesla service has been. No spare tire could strand you fast somewhere.

I got this message this morning while navigating to a supercharger and it was gone when I left the supercharger. On 2018.16.2. From reading this thread my takeaway is for most people this is a bug for AWD cars (model 3s?) in recent firmware.

With all the hype around HW3 it was interesting to hear them discuss in today’s investor event the next gen chip which will be around 3x more powerful than HW3 (aka the FSD chip) and out in around two years from now. With all the talk about how HW3 is barely ticking what will they use all that...

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Thank you for the clarification that the AP remains incredibly narrowly focused on its tasks. Even with offloading some tasks to hardware in the new revision it seems a remarkable ask to get from today to FSD (sleep to your destination) by end of 2020 as Elon recently discussed publicly. Even in...

As I remember it from HS, the basic speed law is 'it is legal to drive as fast as conditions allow'. So if foggy and visibility is poor it is not legal to drive the posted 65. Today I found myself in the only clear lane on the freeway in otherwise 10mph or so traffic. If I was in command I would...

Something better will always be around the corner so it is easy to put off joining the club indefinitely. If he isn't in a hurry nothing but good things should happen if he holds off til June. I'm of the opinion that HW2.5 will see development efforts/improvements drop way off in the next year...

HW3 is the future, HW2/2.5 is basically obsolete. It makes no sense to spend engineering effort to squeeze a little more functionality out of HW2.5 when HW3 will ship in all new cars later this year. This is also why it makes loads of sense to give HW3 to anyone that gets FSD, the enigineering...

Post sale FSD will be 4K for those with EAP and 7k for new purchasers post sale? And those that have the new basic AP will pay ??? For FSD Confused.

IMHO the last two weeks shows that Elon ignores the highly paid professionals he has hired to run Tesla and dictates policy impulsively and by fiat. If the decision to close stores was planned they’d have already gone over the numbers in detail and there wouldn’t be a reversal. If the plan to...

Is anyone else concerned that upgrading to the HW3 will set their development back in similar ways as to when they left MobileEye? I am failing in my search kung-fu this morning but I remember reading that part of Elon's explanation of why the new system is better is that it not only that it...

Tesla has always been wildly optimistic/unrealistic in their future looking statements regarding autonomous driving and by collecting money for years for a feature(FSD) that only recently went into limited beta testing via employees seems not in their customer's best interest. However to those...

Thank you to Troy for creating and updating the pricing chart here. It shows the reduced pricing information for customers that bought before the price reduction on 2/28/19 (announced at Telsa here). For those that have no EAP/FSD can upgrade to AP for 2k and FSD for an additional 3k. Those...

+1 as far as interested-but depends on what the price will be. I take delivery later this month. probably will be a rush on december deliveries so a good time for a group buy. i'm interested in a front end/hood wrap and stumbled on this thread while doing research. There was a group buy in the...

Hey jjrandorin, Congrats on the order. FWIW I was at the UTC store test driving yesterday and looking at their 'inventory' cars as well. I also was concerned about picking up a 'stale' vehicle while looking at the LR RWD variants they had 'off book'. Your SA can look up the build date-for me...

This thread is kinda a zombie, resurrected from last Spring but it is a top google result so I stumbled onto it while thinking about my own configuration. My 2 cents: First, agree with those that Tesla gets loads of value from the hardware in each car regardless of whether the customer pays for...

Test drove the LR RWD today in the pouring rain. It was nicer than I expected it to be. Basically found what has been written here before (and let me apologize for creating another one of these threads). The Model 3 has more head room front and back compared to a Model S with Panoramic roof (the...

First, thank you for clicking through, this forum is a great resource for lurkers, shoppers and owners. I find myself transitioning from lurker to shopper and am looking for other's experience. I live in SoCal with my family and am the primary carpool driver with two kids of my own. I really...