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    2024 Model 3 Performance Announced - Discussion thread post announcement

    The new performance model 3 has the $7500 fed ev credit makng it lower priced than the awd model. A no brainer to buy.
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    Please! Talk me out of MX Plaid !!!

    Don’t get a Plaid X. The driveshaft/CV problem will appear much quicker in the Plaid. For that matter, don’t get an X. It is inexcusable that Tesla has not fixed this design defect.
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    Apr 20, 2024 - Model X price drop by $2,000 !!! wtf...

    Now if Tesla would just make all colors no cost again, I could get red with cream interior and qualify for the $7500.
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    2024 MY "Price Adjustment" Math

    Anyone buying without at least a $3500 discount from today’s $2k lower MSRP is overpaying and shouldn’t complain when, not if, the larger discounts return. Clearing out 45,000 extra cars plus probably another 45,000 this quarter will take lower prices. Plus the Fed is not lowering interest rates...
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    2024 MY "Price Adjustment" Math

    Today 4/18 no discounts on unused inventory Ys in my zip code.
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    2024 MY "Price Adjustment" Math

    Yeah, many were stealth grey, ie 24s.
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    2024 MY "Price Adjustment" Math

    Today Tesla inventory Ys are only $500 to $1300 off instead of $5300 to over $6000 discounts last week.
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    Wall Plug Over Heat Issue - Better 6-50 Receptable? (Using Mobile Charger)

    Perhaps they think since the outlet is rated for 50 amps, the 80% rule allows a 60 amp breaker. Not how it works. You need to change the breaker to 50 amps.
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    Buy EV in another state with No Sales Tax?

    The issue could be that in most states you must get a state license plate if staying more than 30 days, at which time they would collect sales tax. Police notice out of state plates in smaller towns, but you might get away with it.
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    GM supposedly giving rebates to all who bought Blazer EV before new price

    Up to over $6500. Will Tesla ever give its buyers rebates after lowering prices?
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    How is it Possible my 2023 MYLR Trade in value is so low?

    A new car is a depreciating asset. The higher its MSRP price, the greater is the dollar lost upon resale. Assume minimum of 25% of real cost (ie minus $7500 ev credit) the second you buy it and then 10-15% more each year thereafter. Don’t buy new if you can’t afford this level of depreciation...
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    From Y to Audi e-tron: a Comparison

    Just make sure your mom likes the new touchscreen interface of the iX. It takes a lot to memorize on which screen stuff is and having to hold your arm mid-air to adjust hvac, radio, etc. vs switches on the dash.
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    From Y to Audi e-tron: a Comparison

    And your points are why we got a Lyriq Lux 3 awd over the Y. The Y is truly a bargain priced ev in low to mid 40ks but the lack of so many features made the extra $20k easily worth it. Seriously considered the X but the driveline design defect hasn’t been fixed. Congrats on your Etron!
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    Wrong size 285/40/22 tire on car

    The Tesla awd is two motors unlike ICE awd where the front and rear are coupled so it won’t damage hardware, however the computer does not know about the wrong tire size and thus may miscompute as slippage and give warnings or reduce power.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    Lots of Y Performance cars now in inventory, most with ~ $500 discount, a few with ~ $1000.
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    2024 EV tax POS tax credit no tax liability required

    No, stealth grey is no cost paint, not black. MSRP $80k limit excludes transportation.
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    Cybertruck is a scam.

    Re CT price being $42k to $50k in 2 to 4 years, if this lower pricing curve were true then why are Escalades now $120k and Sierra 1500 Denalis $80k when 4 years ago they were $80k and $60k respectively? And 4 years before that available with rebates/discounts for $10k to $15k less. Highly...
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    Cybertruck is a scam.

    Lol I’ve got the FE invite also but I need something under $80k, not $100k.
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    Future loss of $7500?

    Huh? The other 49 states buy about 1/2 of Teslas sold in USA as well as competing evs. The ev rebate does matter to these purchasers. Tesla 3 without it should lose sales.
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    Future loss of $7500?

    The present cars do not qualify. But if Tesla is like Ford or GM they would be working hard to get their battery eligible again. $7500 discount on a $46k car is a lot not to use in an increasingly competitive market.
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    Future loss of $7500?

    Agree. My point is that Tesla has told its reps to let Y buyers know there is no update in 2024, and thus no reason to delay a Y purchase. Tesla has not said anything about the new 3’s potential $7500 tax credit return. Which means they are trying to keep its sales going. Even GM offered a...
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    Future loss of $7500?

    It is amazing that anyone is buying a Highland 3 now since later this year it could qualify for the $7500 credit. Pretty big resale hit.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    My bad. No new motors. Culda sworn I read that but now can’t find it.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    Much better interior materials. Ventilated seats. New motors. New brakes. New wheel hubs. More insulation and seals. Acoustic laminated glass on all windows for less noise. Improved body panel fit and smaller gaps. 20% less NVH. Frequency dependent shock absorbers. Faster screen processor...
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    No Y update until 2025.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    Anyone buying a Y has to wonder what is a fair price for it. Inventory 10% off in January now down to 5% or less. But some get an extra $1000 off.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    Without a doubt a 2024 will be worth more than $1530 over a 2023 in 4 to 5 years, but probably less than $3000. Also all existing Ys will depreciate more after Juniper update, so if you are concerned about $1530, perhaps wait for Juniper.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    Do any 2023s still exist in inventory? Also, try looking for a 2024 in midnight silver as they did exist.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    BTW Tesla sent out a $1000 discount yesterday through 3/31/24 for Cybertruck preorderers on Y, S and X. Will Tesla do 10% discounts in late March in addition? I think this is doubtful.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    Prices up today.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    Not everyone wants a stripped down vehicle suitable for rental self driving or Ubering. These will obviously sell to their market until it is saturated. There is a reason every other car maker offers options, even other disruptive ev makers.
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    Trade in MY bought 7 months ago to buy a new MY and get paid about $2000 after federal and state tax credits

    To get tradein value you can just put in your trade info without an order. Be aware Tesla doesn’t sell used cars. Trades go to auction. You will be offered worst day low auction price.
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    Prediction: Model X price will be reduced to $78K in January 2024

    ICE car resale values will never drop like a rock, more than they already do. As evs become a larger portion of the fleet, gasoline usage will fall and its price will fall too making ICE usage much cheaper. There will also be 75% of the country where evs don’t make sense - cold and/or long...
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    “No more sitting back on stale designs or stripping features out.“ Indeed the biggest mistake of Tesla is not offering non-essential features (like sunroofs, electric roof shades, 14 way seats, Satellite Sirius, spare tires/runflats, Apple Carplay) and removing existing (like passenger lumbar...
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    Buyer Beware! Tesla Ups Price on order by $1790.00 and And Does not Refund Order fee of $250.00!!

    Same order number but higher price. Money is more important to Tesla than customer. But we all knew this. Part of the deal buying a Tesla unfortunately.
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    Reservation Numbers are RANDOM and have no relevance

    Most people believe the order number is in sequence. I find it hard to believe they are random.
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    2024 Ys 10% off already

    If 10% by day 28 of a new year, wonder what the discount in March will be to push end of quarter sales.
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    Is Buying a 2020 Model Y Performance a Bad Idea?

    Any Tesla out of warranty is a bad idea.
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    2024s LRY up to $4770 Discount

    Bad weather must be slowing sales.
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    Ultra Red now $2500

    Noticed price increase today on X ordering. Stealth grey now only free color. Update: Was apparently done on 1/16/24.
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    Model Year 2024 Model Y

    But Tesla does do model years per the VIN just like every other brand. Guaranteed if you trade or sell a one year older model you will get less.
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    Model Year 2024 Model Y

    2024s are being discounted $3100 today vs about $4500 on a 2023. One year model change is easily worth way more than $1400 regardless of color.
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    Tax credit 2024 [The tax credit discussion thread]

    I’ve seen $3100 discount today on some 2024 LRY in WA state. I imagine weather across country is stopping purchases and so the 2024 Y inventory is increasing quickly.
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    Model Year 2024 Model Y

    Any referral code gets 3 months FSD.
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    Model Year 2024 Model Y

    I’ve seen 2024 LR Ys for $2500 off. Usually with paint, white interior and/or hitch. Not on base LRs.
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    FSD software adder isn’t part of MSRP?

    Looking at Tesla fine print on which evs qualify for the $7500 ev credit, it notes that software is not part of the $80k MSRP limit just as shipping isn’t. Does this really mean one can get the base X with FSD and still get the $7500?
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    Model Year 2024 Model Y

    Tesla does this?