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Elon already said at the first reveal that the Model 3 would do 0-60 in under 6 seconds.
Curious why you came to that conclusion. Some have been freaking out about this on the Model S forum: No Plans to take X, S (or 3) above 100kWh
JeffK
Well-Known Member
How I came to the conclusion that:
means just the motors and gearbox???
I'm not sure what any other interpretation of that comment would be, but I know for sure that replying to that comment saying the pack will be under 100 kWh is not relevant because it was literally stated in the comment itself.
Ahhhh... I thought you meant Elon's comment had to do with motors and gearbox. Carry on...
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JHWJR
Member
I agree. Which was a factor in my deciding not to wait any longer for a Model 3. I went with the Model X in Mid January. I still hope that the Model 3 is everything this collection of posters are hoping for. I find the company and its products SO exciting and fun.
Garlan Garner
Banned
I think for performance wise if $90k can get me to 2s there will be a big market for that since you will need to pay for over $160k for the same spec for MS. And not to mention all the other competition that can run in similar time.
Garlan Garner
Banned
I would agree with you 100% except for the fact that there won't be any competitive M3 cars out there in the 2's. The MS has competition in the 2's, but I can't see an M3 having competition in the 2's.
Exactly if M3 is not in the 2s then it wouldn't cost $90k as well and would probably max out at $70k to $80k range.
First, I think that the Model 3 won't be at 60 in 2 seconds flat. It could be doable, but they would need quite the motors for that, not to mention the power the battery has to supply. It would need to be as powerful as the S, but weigh only about 1600-1700kg. Or have some kind of magical tires. It could surely beat the Model S, but 2 seconds flat is seriously quick. 0-60 times don't go linear with more power, because traction limits acceleration, so the 3 will have to get a lead after 40mph. And making up .2 seconds from 40-60 is a lot of improvement.
But I could see it in the mid to high 2s, which would still be impressive. I am also not sure if the S/X and 3 will share motors. I would make sense for the lower end Model Ses to get the cheaper Model 3 motors, so maybe the Model 3 PXXD will be able to have the same motors as the highest performance Model S and maybe the new cells are so powerful, that even at a lower capacity, they will be able to supply enough power.
If the Model 3 would ever be quicker than the Model S, I do think Tesla would just upgrade the most powerful Model S to three motors and be done with it. Not that that would improve 0-60 by a lot, but then Tesla will just quote 0-100mph and everything will be fine again.
But I could see it in the mid to high 2s, which would still be impressive. I am also not sure if the S/X and 3 will share motors. I would make sense for the lower end Model Ses to get the cheaper Model 3 motors, so maybe the Model 3 PXXD will be able to have the same motors as the highest performance Model S and maybe the new cells are so powerful, that even at a lower capacity, they will be able to supply enough power.
If the Model 3 would ever be quicker than the Model S, I do think Tesla would just upgrade the most powerful Model S to three motors and be done with it. Not that that would improve 0-60 by a lot, but then Tesla will just quote 0-100mph and everything will be fine again.
My guess is mid 2s or better 0-60 and $70K +/- $5K for the base PxxD Model 3. Could be a bit higher if they package a bunch of options in the base model. They will likely offer P only with Ludicrous as with the P100D.
Regular big battery D will be close to BMW M3 in 0-60 performance. P will be in a totally different (Supercar) class.
Elon wants to demonstrate that ICE is obsolete, and this is one way to do it.
Regular big battery D will be close to BMW M3 in 0-60 performance. P will be in a totally different (Supercar) class.
Elon wants to demonstrate that ICE is obsolete, and this is one way to do it.
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Model S M.D.
Ludicrous Radiologist
If you believe Trevor's source, Tesla got a Model 3 to do 0 to 60 in 2 seconds... would that be fast enough for you
(see his statement at starting at 4:43)
Take (more) of my money!
garsh
Re Member
In a follow-up post on M3OC, Trev said that this was most likely just a mule in Model 3 clothing, and that they were likely running tests for a future Roadster model built on the same chassis. As much as I would love to have a two second Model 3, I have to admit that the "mule" explanation seems more likely.If you believe Trevor's source, Tesla got a Model 3 to do 0 to 60 in 2 seconds... would that be fast enough for you
(see his statement at starting at 4:43)
A Model 3 that does 0-60 in under 3 seconds (the '2's) will cut into Model S sales quite massively. What would be the point of buying a £150k ludicrous Model S P100D when you could get the same acceleration in a car that costs less than £100k?
If the base Model 3 can do 0-60 in under 6 seconds, I would think the ludicrous P version would probably do it in under 4.
If the base Model 3 can do 0-60 in under 6 seconds, I would think the ludicrous P version would probably do it in under 4.
I agree with your point about a 3 in the 2s cutting into S sales but I would hope a ludicrous 3 would be able to be closer to 3.0 than 4.0 otherwise I'm not going to drop that kind of money and im guessing I'm not the only one that feels that way.
EXOTIC1
Member
C63 is faster than an S63 despite costing almost 100k less
different cars for different folks
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