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What I've stated about the model 3 are not opinions but facts. If you can provide a better example of overall better performance vehicle for a better value sold anywhere in the world please provide the vehicle info.
What I've stated are simply facts.
Y'all are entitled to your own opinions but the facts are simply the facts.
Ive owned three Tesla's two model S P90 and P100D and one model 3. I've driven at least three others: X, mid range 3, and S 75D.
With all technical, subjective,objective and performance factors taken into consideration the palace
Performance model 3 and it's model Y variant are simply the best vehicles in the current and imminent future Tesla lineup.
I think Tesla has done beyond a fantastic job of bringing the price down to a very reasonable level from the +100,000 dollar range to+50,000 for a better higher performance cari just a few years.
So many of y'all have eyes but can't see it's astounding.
I am canceling my order on this car. If anyone from here wants it we can transfer it to your account and you can get it.
Super smart. The Model S pricing is going to be destroyed when the Taycan starts being delivered. Tesla is going to have a massive problem on their hands.
maybe. The Taycan is nowhere as fast as a P100DL though.
It will be interesting to see what the performance ends up being on the Taycan, particularly the Turbo. From a looks, reliability, service experience, buying experience, stable resale value, the list could go on and one....Porsche will be far superior. I had a Model S inventory car ordered about 2 months ago and then cancelled it because my experience was such a sh*t show. I had the same set of issues when I got my X a few years back.
I think buying a S right now, especially a new one or an overpriced used one on this forum, is just a terrible idea.
It will be interesting to see what the performance ends up being on the Taycan, particularly the Turbo. From a looks, reliability, service experience, buying experience, stable resale value, the list could go on and one....Porsche will be far superior. I had a Model S inventory car ordered about 2 months ago and then cancelled it because my experience was such a sh*t show. I had the same set of issues when I got my X a few years back.
I think buying a S right now, especially a new one or an overpriced used one on this forum, is just a terrible idea.
That's true but self driving and the supercharger network won't bail out Tesla much longer with more and more competition coming out.
I have high hopes for the e-tron GT and the way I see it, I'd go for one in a heartbeat over an S, even if it comes with a way more limited driver assistance package.
Objectively speaking, what competition?
There is not an EV to date released that is as good as the original Model S released back in 2012. That's a 7 year lead, and counting . . .
1) power - nope, no one else close (we're talking not even in the same time zone close, forget zip code close)
2) efficiency - nope
3) battery degradation profile - this one is laughable really, no one to date has figured out how to properly design battery packs that don't degrade sharply over their lifetime (my two 85 packs from 2013 cars still have 94-95% of their original capacity)
4) charging network - this one is just downright PAINFUL for all other manufacturers. Try taking any other EV cross country and let us know how that experience was
5) self driving - yeah, we don't even need to elaborate on this one
Things Tesla desperately needs to improve upon:
1) sales experience (not the website stuff, the HUMAN stuff)
2) repair experience (waiting weeks or months for parts is not acceptable)
1) The i-pace can do 0-60 in 4 something seconds which is vastly faster than the original Model S, isn't it?
3) I think we'll have to wait and see on the battery degradation profile.
5) Tesla isn't as far ahead of everyone as most people think it is. Within a year or at most 2 years others will catch up on them in this. Waymo is already far ahead but it's not practical.
I agree with the rest, although it must be said that other brands like Audi and Porsche have superior build quality and interior quality. That must also be counted.
Your opinion is that the 3 is better, that is without question different than a fact. The older P90D and older P100D don’t feel the same as a new P100D, that’s my opinion. IMO a new P3D definitely doesn’t feel the same either. IMO the new P100D’s are superior in most ways, they should be for twice the price and not many should argue that opinion. I have to admit the P3 has grown on me and I will add one shortly to our garage, not to replace an S or X, but as a budget hot rod. That is where the P3 is superior. IMO.
When all factors are taken into account the two cars are very close but for me, overall I really believe the performance model 3 is the better car.
Super smart. The Model S pricing is going to be destroyed when the Taycan starts being delivered. Tesla is going to have a massive problem on their hands.