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Get ready to be treated like a peasant then when the roadster comes out.
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Get ready to be treated like a peasant then when the roadster comes out.
You do realize exactly this happens?Name one other car company that behaves like this? You can't, because you won't find one... Could you imagine if Mercedes decided to put new features and functionality into their base model car before the S/AMG class? (not sure enough about Mercedes model distinctions to know exactly what's the top of the line) Their ownership base would be having kittens...
Jeff
There’s no place to activate it. The code is def there as the Model 3 with the same firmware has it.the code to do tht is present, so perhaps you need to activate it separately somehow? (I don't have mcu2 car to play with to tell you the actual steps)
I think they initially focused on the 3 because that's where so many of the breakins were happening.
Tesla was so super focused on it that the first people who got the update were in Cali.
I only finally got the update yesterday on my Model 3.
On the blog post it says "The feature will begin rolling out today to U.S. Model 3 vehicles, followed by Model S and Model X vehicles that were built after August 2017."
The fact that it took a month for me to get it means it will probably be another month until the Model X gets it.
While I'm a bit annoyed that M3 gets all the attention while my Xs sit all sad and unloved, I understand that Tesla needs to make the biggest impact to protect as many of its customers as possible, and that's the M3. It doesn't mean Tesla forgets about the Ss and Xs, it just means there's less of us as a percentage now.
Tesla is moving toward releasing all models with the single horizontal screen so it can write software once and roll it out quickly across all models. Vertical guys and gals like us are going to be left behind more and more.
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This guy Jeff definitely has a chip against M3 owners and sees himself as somehow “better than.” He should know a lot of M3 owners own X and S as well. And I awknowledge, there are definitely growing pains with the company. Like my last reply, if entitlement depends on how much cash you spend prepare to get treated like the way you treat model 3 owners right now when the roadster comes out...
It’s not model 3 owners, it’s people like you (whether or not you own a roadster, S, X or 3) acting in this way that give us all a terrible rep.
Elon said Comes with 2019.8, which finishes validation this week
No wonder Tesla feels okay giving flagship owners the shaft... Wayyyy too many of you are supportive of it...
Jeff
Great!
Again, what are you going to do once the roadster comes out and your car isn’t the “flagship” anymore? Your need for immediate attention and every thing first won’t be fulfilled if, as you wish Tesla devotes their time and energy to the most expensive product first. Think about it, at that point you could have an issue primarily affecting your X. How happy will you be if they provide all the updates to those who own roadsters just because they paid more? Stop thinking about you first and how much money you paid for one second and put yourself in the other persons shoe. We all paid a lot for our S, and X. Even a lot of 3 owners have paid a lot. Again, there’s a lot of 3 owners who own S and X. They aren’t below us. We should be glad we are slowly changing the tide against traditional ICE cars.
Elon said Comes with 2019.8, which finishes validation this week
But back to your Mercedes example:
MANY instances of this happening. In just the previous generation, the Mercedes C class was updated before the E class. (One tier apart)
The E class was updated before the S class. It was given a lot of safety features, smart features, and some autonomy tech before the S class got it. Merc followed up months later with a mid-cycle refresh to the S class.
I already addressed this so perhaps your reading comprehension needs a bit of work...??? The 2020 Roadster owners ABSOLUTELY should get priority over EVERYONE else. This isn't even a question when you're spending that kind of money on something. What's so complicated about that? They should get features/updates first, they should have priority in service, technical support, EVERYTHING...
It's not a matter of being above or below, you're really hung upon this for some reason... It's a matter of treating owners in an appropriate manor based on their entry points into the brand. This isn't controversial at all, okay maybe for you it is...
Jeff
Normally I wouldn't engage in this, but you're bashing Tesla unfairly. I'm all for constructive and HONEST criticism of Tesla, but you can't make an apples to oranges comparison that didn't even exist in the first place.This is more than a bit disingenuous and I suspect you know that... It's based on release cycles and I can assure you that when each class is updated in the order in which they are, you won't find a fresh S class release that lacks a single feature that the E class has and you'll also find it with plenty of things the current E class at the time doesn't have...
It's not an apples to apples analogy due to the fact that Mercedes uses a traditional automaker release schedule whereas Tesla implements changes on the fly no matter what. I was trying to make a point about flagship models and while I could have enumerated it better, I didn't think I needed to...
Jeff
This is coming from the guy who called all model 3 owners “the worst thing to happen to Tesla.” It’s fine to have your desire that Tesla treat you better based on the price of your car. I’ve told you before, Tesla doesn’t behave like traditional auto, so you might end up disappointed constantly. Again that’s your desire, fine to have it. And again, myself and others have explained there is some logic behind the release of sentry mode.
What’s not fine is for you to come into the forums and raise a hissy fit against model 3 owners, call them the worst thing to happen to the company. Calling them entiltited when you are doing the same thing here. I raise the issue of being above or below since it’s obvious you think you are in some higher place because of the price of your car. And you aren’t getting it.
How many initial roadster owners are here complaining that our S and X has more features and that they don’t get treated special. Get over yourself.
Again, you're deciding to cherry pick a comment to suit your own narrative. My position isn't controversial or unheard of or any other negative connotation you want to give it to make yourself feel better. This excuse that Tesla doesn't behave like traditional auto is nothing more than a justification for your own fanboy'ism... I get it, in your world Tesla can do no wrong, blah, blah, blah... The Model 3 has been great for the balance sheet but it's been incredibly disruptive to the brand and ownership base due to a litany of poorly thought out decisions and even worse execution... Model 3 owners have come into the brand thinking they're special because they can finally afford a Tesla and that has come with a level of entitlement that isn't justified. Call it what you will, call me what you will, I don't really care about either...
That being said, I will say whatever I want to say, whenever I want to say it and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. Initial Roadster owners have been almost completely abandoned by Tesla and that isn't right either...
I find it hilarious you are trying to educate me on how Tesla operates considering I've been around the brand since early 2012 and while that doesn't make me special or anything and many have been around a lot longer than I have, I do have plenty of experience knowing how Tesla operates...
Perhaps you're the one that should get over yourself...???
Jeff
When you pay what you pay for a Model X, you're completely justified to be entitled... It's the most expensive car the brand offers... I go back to my Mercedes example on this one...
We don't need to chill, Tesla needs to remove it's head from it's backside...
Jeff
Get Chill.
Believed me. Tesla make more profit on Model 3 compare to S/X. Do you even know that how Toyota make more profit than BUGATI. Even X/S cost more but think how many of them got sold.
Model 3 sold so far > S + X and bring more profit. But waitttt... just dont talk about the price or cost any more. Tesla SHOULD treat all S, X, 3, Y, R Same. Do you like if Tesla treat you Bad because the price lower than Bugati 11M dollar?
Your position isn’t controversial, the way you defend it is. It’s fine to have candid discussion about concerns and issues. Others have brought up the logic behind sentry mode. You are so bent on the fact that it came to M3 first you don’t see the logic.
I love the I’ve been around so long defense.. as well as fanboy labeling. It really adds to your credibility. Keep it up. Look at your own post history, it’s not cherry picked, you’ve been arguing around most threads recently.