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2019 Long range or new 2023 standard range?
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Evpowerdan
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Pretty simple decision. Warranty is KING IMO, so a 2019 is going to be without warranty soon. The build quality has increased drastically over the past several years, and even the part they use now look similar, but have been updated (like the door handles - go pull a new 2023 door handle - feels a lot different). Though it looks similar - the newer 2023 has a lot of different parts, after years of quality control of vehicles on the road.
So in the end - it really depends on what your needs/wants are - plus your budget. If you live in CA, the CVRP + the IRA EV tax rebate could make the decision much easier.
Used Tesla prices are dropping, as all the major buyers (Carvana, Vroom, Driveway, Carmax and etc) have slashed used values. Most trade in offers for a 2022 MP3 to these dealers will result in a $35k-$36k offer (low $30's for a M3LR). High interest rates, no FOMO, new EV federal and state rebates - (used car values will fall (just like in normal times) - buying new make more financial sense.
Plus - depending on your state and what you qualify for - the IRA EV tax rebate of $7,500 + your states rebate (if any) makes new looks financially a no brainer to me. That my 2-cents!
- Performance wise the SR is slower 5.8 sec - 0-60, but still very fast compared to a similar ice vehicle.
- If you don't need the additional performance or AWD (Dual Motors) - new is king.
- The LFP battery can be charged to 100% daily (about 272 miles, but depends on your driving), and does charge at a slower kWh rate. 260+ miles is more than most other EV's out there (ID4, EV6 and etc).
- New - Everything is new, and you won't have to replace the expensive tires ($400/each) anytime soon.
- Standard autopilot is perfect.
So in the end - it really depends on what your needs/wants are - plus your budget. If you live in CA, the CVRP + the IRA EV tax rebate could make the decision much easier.
Used Tesla prices are dropping, as all the major buyers (Carvana, Vroom, Driveway, Carmax and etc) have slashed used values. Most trade in offers for a 2022 MP3 to these dealers will result in a $35k-$36k offer (low $30's for a M3LR). High interest rates, no FOMO, new EV federal and state rebates - (used car values will fall (just like in normal times) - buying new make more financial sense.
Plus - depending on your state and what you qualify for - the IRA EV tax rebate of $7,500 + your states rebate (if any) makes new looks financially a no brainer to me. That my 2-cents!
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puckpurnell
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Gonna lose a lot of juice in an extension cord at that length. Even with a larger gauge cord.
Thanks for all your informative replies. I placed an order for new one. I don’t know why it was so hard to reach a used cars advisor from Tesla or even try to test drive the one I’m looking for.
I had the same plan back in 2019, i was planning to buy the new M3 at that time. I tried to discuss with my property manager and promised to provide all cable covers and safety equipment to protect the cable, in exchange of assigning the closest parking spot to me, but they refused for liability concerns. Now my new job location has a few shared chargers, so I took that a sign to switch.
It maybe sound wrong, or maybe it will turn out to be a wrong mov, I guess we will see.
silvermaxd
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It was awe. The problem is that I couldn’t reach anyone to help me check it or test drive it. I could’t digest the idea of paying for used car without seeing it first.
Evpowerdan
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All USA built 2022/ 2023 SR+ RWD have the LFP batteries. Can’t speak for other countries.
E90alex
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Austin is not building Model 3 so that’s impossible to be from Austin. It’s from Fremont.
But all North American market Model 3 RWD are LFP as of about 2021. Basically when they rebranded it to RWD instead of SR/SR+.
So it would be recommended to fully charge every night, correct? Now I need to go read up on LFPs lol
Oh, yes I meant Fremont sorry. VIN is 5YJ3E1EA4PF-
Ah, okay thanks for the clarification. I kept seeing stuff about SR, SR+ and such and I was a bit confused because mine is RWD but no one calls it that. I've only been in the MY forums because of my MYLR lol.
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For the RWD When you do charge it yes 100% it will scorn you if you drop the target below 100% i have 220 15a at my place and plug it in most of the time but when thunderstorms are predicted i tend to take the cautious route and unplug it lol…
i can normally go 3-4 days before i feel i need to charge it, if i go too much below 40% it takes more than 10 hrs to fully charge. But i sometimes even though a round trip run to the office is ~20% Including sentry-mode i will just plug it in when i get home.
Normally one night A week i get it fully charged then unplug it and turn of sentry to allow the pack to balance Out. (It does that when the contacters disconnect from my understanding.)
Evpowerdan
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Yep - ABC "Always BE Charging" is key - especially when you have access to a home charger. Once you get into that routine - similar to charging your phone - you won't worry about range at all. LFP batteries may charge a bit slower (170 kWh vs 250+, but filling them to 100% is a bonus). On trips - just a little planning will make it easy too. Staying in a hotel with a EV charger makes life super stress free.
whats the lowest recommended %? For my MYLR, it was recommended to stay between 20-80% so I assume for the M3RWD it would be 20-100% right?
Newer 2023 Model 3 standard range.
My 2019 Model 3 Long Ranger isnt fairing to well. I just hit 100,000 miles. Supposedly, the battery chemistry is much better(?) than the 2019 batteries.
In short, my range went from 310 miles to 270 miles which is not bad. However, going "long distance" the reality is that MY car only does about 220 miles max driving from 100 to 0 percent.
My 2019 Model 3 Long Ranger isnt fairing to well. I just hit 100,000 miles. Supposedly, the battery chemistry is much better(?) than the 2019 batteries.
In short, my range went from 310 miles to 270 miles which is not bad. However, going "long distance" the reality is that MY car only does about 220 miles max driving from 100 to 0 percent.
M3_Performante
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yes, it is...all the M3LR's come with AB on their used inventory
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