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2021+ Model S and Model S Plaid Refresh Issues Thread

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ok, wanted to make sure I was not complaining about something my car does not have. Today at delivery when I brought it up to my SA they couldn't understand WHY I expected a light in there??? IDK, I love the cars, but the people I wonder about sometimes. I think they mean well, but I feel you should know the cars (or any product for that matter) that you are selling.

So far I have had multiple "USB too small errors", a "power assisted steering degraded" error ,and the door handles do not auto present.
BTW, they don't have any fobs in stock so Im using my phone but I don't think the car will sleep because everywhere in my house, my phone is connected to the car.
On that note...
I was able to pair my wife's spare M3 fob to the S and everything works EXCEPT it will not unlock when I walk up. I have to pull the fob out and actually push the top of it to get the car to unlock.
That makes me want to try to buy a MS fob from Ebay and see if it will work on the Plaid...anyone tried that yet?

FWIW, I like the fobs as my key for some reason.
 
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ok, wanted to make sure I was not complaining about something my car does not have. Today at delivery when I brought it up to my SA they couldn't understand WHY I expected a light in there??? IDK, I love the cars, but the people I wonder about sometimes. I think they mean well, but I feel you should know the cars (or any product for that matter) that you are selling.

So far I have had multiple "USB too small errors", a "power assisted steering degraded" error ,and the door handles do not auto present.
BTW, they don't have any fobs in stock so Im using my phone but I don't think the car will sleep because everywhere in my house, my phone is connected to the car.
On that note...
I was able to pair my wife's spare M3 fob to the S and everything works EXCEPT it will not unlock when I walk up. I have to pull the fob out and actually push the top of it to get the car to unlock.
That makes me want to try to buy a MS fob from Ebay and see if it will work on the Plaid...anyone tried that yet?

FWIW, I like the fobs as my key for some reason.
Just because your phone is seeing the car (via bluetooth) it will not keep the car awake or stop it from locking. The car can triangulate your distance and won’t unlock unless you are pretty darn close. If it’s not unlocking from in the house it should sleep fine. On Model 3 sometime the car would not unlock if the phone was in my back pocket but it would in my front pocket. That’s how close it wants to see you.

If you do need the car to lock on walk away that distance is quite a bit further, like 15-20 ft.

Our garage was under the house but adjacent to the end of the house and the bedroom was a level above and adjacent. So pretty close. Probably 25ft from night stand. Phone would see it, but it locked and slept fine.
 
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Just because your phone is seeing the car (via bluetooth) it will not keep the car awake or stop it from locking. The car can triangulate your distance and won’t unlock unless you are pretty darn close. If it’s not unlocking from in the house it should sleep fine. On Model 3 sometime the car would not unlock if the phone was in my back pocket but it would in my front pocket. That’s how close it wants to see you.

If you do need the car to lock on walk away that distance is quite a bit further, like 15-20 ft.

Our garage was under the house but adjacent to the end of the house and the bedroom was a level above and adjacent. So pretty close. Probably 25ft from night stand. Phone would see it, but it locked and slept fine.
Thanks for that info. Makes since now that I think about it. My wife's 3 sleeps fine and she has been using her phone since she got the car 2 years ago.
Ahh the joys of OCD and a new Tesla! lol
 
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This. I think it is an optical illusion / design.
That was my thinking too. With my OCD certain things drive my crazy when they are misaligned but after admitting it is an optical illusion I try to stay calm. Another example is the T logo in the back. To me it seems slightly off centered. I keep on thinking when I am driving I am not looking at it....
 
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Getting closer to a fix for the passenger door being hard to close. The angle of the glass on my car is too steep, causing the glass to push up against the top seal too strongly. If this were a wheel, I'd call it excessive negative camber angle. A mobile service tech said that angle is adjustable. So, I'm hoping mobile service next week can adjust mine and make the door reasonable to close. It's fine with the window open, so the problem is with the glass.
 
Getting closer to a fix for the passenger door being hard to close. The angle of the glass on my car is too steep, causing the glass to push up against the top seal too strongly. If this were a wheel, I'd call it excessive negative camber angle. A mobile service tech said that angle is adjustable. So, I'm hoping mobile service next week can adjust mine and make the door reasonable to close. It's fine with the window open, so the problem is with the glass.
That was a problem on my Raven X. It was not hard to close (partly because it was powered). But it created a gap between the window seal on the top of the Door panel and glass when the door shut because it was pushing on the glass. This let in a lot of noise. I adjusted it myself.

Good catch.

I suspect a LOT of windows, on all vintages and models, are NOT optimally adjusted. It's almost as critical as camber on your wheel. Too much or too little causes all sorts of issues.
 
That was a problem on my Raven X. It was not hard to close (partly because it was powered). But it created a gap between the window seal on the top of the Door panel and glass when the door shut because it was pushing on the glass. This let in a lot of noise. I adjusted it myself.

Good catch.

I suspect a LOT of windows, on all vintages and models, are NOT optimally adjusted. It's almost as critical as camber on your wheel. Too much or too little causes all sorts of issues.
The front passenger window on the refresh S seems to be terrible on all the cars. Everyone seems to complain about how hard it is to close the passenger door. Not sure what's wrong with the manufacturing, but the initial adjustments or installation is way off.
 
The front passenger window on the refresh S seems to be terrible on all the cars. Everyone seems to complain about how hard it is to close the passenger door. Not sure what's wrong with the manufacturing, but the initial adjustments or installation is way off.

I have a feb '22 build and I also have the passenger side door hard to close issue as well. Haven't taken it in yet.
 
After having my model s a month and a half I thought I would followup with the build quality issues that have come up since the initial delivery:

- Front drivers side fender is making contact the the mirror frame when door is closed. This creates a weird rattle/squeak that sounds like it's coming from inside the car but it is actually this.
- Windshield wipers occasionally make a weird rubbing/creaking noise as they operate
- When going over uneven surfaces (like angled driveway) there is creaking coming from the rear of the car as if the car is flexing and creating a creak
- As mentioned above, passenger side front door is difficult to close (all the other doors are fine)

Here were my delivery day issues as well:

- Loose particles in main driver display between lens and screen (not touchscreen)
- Loose seat material on both front seats
- Manufacturing adhesive on rear door cards that won't come off
- Rear PPF piece on passenger side has bubbles under it and also rough edges that collect a lot of dirt
 
After having my model s a month and a half I thought I would followup with the build quality issues that have come up since the initial delivery:

- Front drivers side fender is making contact the the mirror frame when door is closed. This creates a weird rattle/squeak that sounds like it's coming from inside the car but it is actually this.
- Windshield wipers occasionally make a weird rubbing/creaking noise as they operate
- When going over uneven surfaces (like angled driveway) there is creaking coming from the rear of the car as if the car is flexing and creating a creak
- As mentioned above, passenger side front door is difficult to close (all the other doors are fine)

Here were my delivery day issues as well:

- Loose particles in main driver display between lens and screen (not touchscreen)
- Loose seat material on both front seats
- Manufacturing adhesive on rear door cards that won't come off
- Rear PPF piece on passenger side has bubbles under it and also rough edges that collect a lot of dirt

I've got the same plasticy creak coming from the driver's rear side of the car.

Also, I've tried to get them to fix the passenger door three times now. They keep getting it wrong.
 
Getting closer to a fix for the passenger door being hard to close. The angle of the glass on my car is too steep, causing the glass to push up against the top seal too strongly. If this were a wheel, I'd call it excessive negative camber angle. A mobile service tech said that angle is adjustable. So, I'm hoping mobile service next week can adjust mine and make the door reasonable to close. It's fine with the window open, so the problem is with the glass.
this was fixed by a a service center when i first got car. that’s what they ended up doing. adjusting glass. why this is common is weird to me. i did post the fix somewhere in this thread or another thread. it shuts about 80-85% better.
 
this was fixed by a a service center when i first got car. that’s what they ended up doing. adjusting glass. why this is common is weird to me.
It is obvious that the fixture they are using to build the front passenger door is mis-calibrated. (Or the people building that door are doing it wrong, which seems unlikely that they only build that one door.)

I don't know how they haven't figured out to adjust that fixture already to resolve this problem at the factory in all of the many changes they make every week. (Having to correctly adjust the window regulator is one of the things that Sandy Munro really disliked about the current Model S door design.)
 
It is obvious that the fixture they are using to build the front passenger door is mis-calibrated. (Or the people building that door are doing it wrong, which seems unlikely that they only build that one door.)

I don't know how they haven't figured out to adjust that fixture already to resolve this problem at the factory in all of the many changes they make every week. (Having to correctly adjust the window regulator is one of the things that Sandy Munro really disliked about the current Model S door design.)
right. he praised the model Y design of that same part. too bad they didn’t have time to fit it on the S.
 
Does anyone have a rattle that sounds like it’s coming from the passenger side dash area? happens when you go above 25 mph. maybe it’s a loose plastic fuxture in frunk where wind may be getting in there and rattling the plastic? drives me insane.

Does anyone have a rattle that sounds like it’s coming from the passenger side dash area? happens when you go above 25 mph. maybe it’s a loose plastic fuxture in frunk where wind may be getting in there and rattling the plastic? drives me insane.
I've got rattles and creaks all over the car! Worse than my 2018 model 3.
 
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