2021+ Model S and Model S Plaid Refresh Issues Thread

[KidsEyeDr]

*does not see.
Will not? I think it will. But obviously that’s my own speculative forward looking opinion.

 

[aerodyne]

*does not see.
Will not? I think it will. But obviously that’s my own speculative forward looking opinion.

I was thinking of Beta. If FSD goes beyond beta, it had better see road debris and be able to operate in adverse weather.

 

[n2mb_racing]

I was thinking of Beta. If FSD goes beyond beta, it had better see road debris and be able to operate in adverse weather.

Yeah, I can't really see how it's worth $10k or $15k now if it can't reach level 3. But, I paid $10k for it, so jokes on me!

 

[jebinc]

I was thinking of Beta. If FSD goes beyond beta, it had better see road debris and be able to operate in adverse weather.

Nothing Tesla tags "beta" ever leaves that "beta" status.... e.g., Smart Summon, auto wipers, ANR and many other features... Perpetually "beta"......

 

[aerodyne]

Nothing Tesla tags "beta" ever leaves that "beta" status.... e.g., Smart Summon, auto wipers, ANR and many other features... Perpetually "beta"......

Is NoA still beta? Have to explain to wifey why her old Benz does auto lane change, and the new MS does not unless I pay for the full Beta Baloney

 

[n2mb_racing]

Is NoA still beta? Have to explain to wifey why her old Benz does auto lane change, and the new MS does not unless I pay for the full Beta Baloney

Well, I guess it is back with enhanced AP for $6k. You can do all the useful things with EAP without getting FSD.

 

[aerodyne]

Well, I guess it is back with enhanced AP for $6k. You can do all the useful things with EAP without getting FSD.

I want the $99/mo subscription to come back.

 

[MP3Mike]

I want the $99/mo subscription to come back.

Come back? It has never existed. (There is a $99/month subscription for owners of EAP to "upgrade" to FSD.)

 

[Daniellane]

I was thinking of Beta. If FSD goes beyond beta, it had better see road debris and be able to operate in adverse weather.

It’s clearly not blind to all debris as you will see in this YouTube video I posted back in November.
How Tesla FSD Beta Handles Leaves

 

[WilliamG]

I want the $99/mo subscription to come back.

I want my thousands of dollars to come back, too.

 

[jebinc]

I want my thousands of dollars to come back, too.

+1

 

[Duke846]

+1

I can confirm ANC doesn’t do anything on a 2022 plaid. FSD= trash. (I also knew this before buying)
i am also lucky enough to be getting booted from autopilot driving for the rest of the trip now every 30 miles highway. No nag no warning just booted.
tesla’s fix is removal of FSD right now.

 

[aerodyne]

It’s clearly not blind to all debris as you will see in this YouTube video I posted back in November.
How Tesla FSD Beta Handles Leaves

I'd be ok if I hit that at speed.

Semitruck tire case that looks like road tar seam, not so much...

 

[KidsEyeDr]

To each their own, but it is extremely easy to criticize and extremely hard to do things nobody has done before.

Writing what could be “the most advanced software program to ever have been written” Is going to take time, patience, lots of creativity, and so forth.

Whenever I have to drive manually I again am reminded of hope much I appreciate FSD beta.

I think Tesla will continue to make progress and will achieve true FSD. I am very much enjoying the degree of FSD that I currently have.

 

[Duke846]

To each their own, but it is extremely easy to criticize and extremely hard to do things nobody has done before.

Writing what could be “the most advanced software program to ever have been written” Is going to take time, patience, lots of creativity, and so forth.

Whenever I have to drive manually I again am reminded of hope much I appreciate FSD beta.

I think Tesla will continue to make progress and will achieve true FSD. I am very much enjoying the degree of FSD that I currently have.

You would hate driving my Plaid in FSD for sure. If it would even let you.
now my 2019 model 3 performance no FSD does excellent (highway driving) 80,000 miles to confirm that.

 

[n2mb_racing]

You would hate driving my Plaid in FSD for sure. If it would even let you.
now my 2019 model 3 performance no FSD does excellent (highway driving) 80,000 miles to confirm that.

That is odd. I am driving a 2023 Model S without FSD and I'm reminded how bad AP is compared to the latest FSD on my '21 Plaid. I agree it isn't self driving, but it is a pretty good driving assistant. I appreciate not having to hold my hands on the yoke anymore in the latest update.

 

[n2mb_racing]

To each their own, but it is extremely easy to criticize and extremely hard to do things nobody has done before.

Writing what could be “the most advanced software program to ever have been written” Is going to take time, patience, lots of creativity, and so forth.

Whenever I have to drive manually I again am reminded of hope much I appreciate FSD beta.

I think Tesla will continue to make progress and will achieve true FSD. I am very much enjoying the degree of FSD that I currently have.

Well... I think Waymo and others are far ahead of Tesla here because they were willing to include all the sensors. Elon's stubbornness on going all vision has cost Tesla the lead. Hopefully the board kicks out Elon and installs an adult as CEO, so we can get LIDAR, radar, and ultrasound...

 

[Duke846]

That is odd. I am driving a 2023 Model S without FSD and I'm reminded how bad AP is compared to the latest FSD on my '21 Plaid. I agree it isn't self driving, but it is a pretty good driving assistant. I appreciate not having to hold my hands on the yoke anymore in the latest update.

I believe I may have something going on with the car.
I also haven’t ever heard of anyone getting FSD removed. This is the 15k version also not the rent per month option.

 

[Duke846]

Well... I think Waymo and others are far ahead of Tesla here because they were willing to include all the sensors. Elon's stubbornness on going all vision has cost Tesla the lead. Hopefully the board kicks out Elon and installs an adult as CEO, so we can get LIDAR, radar, and ultrasound...

In teslas defense I have a contact that wants every disconnect time it happens to me. I actually text it to him.

 

[jebinc]

I can confirm ANC doesn’t do anything on a 2022 plaid. FSD= trash. (I also knew this before buying)
i am also lucky enough to be getting booted from autopilot driving for the rest of the trip now every 30 miles highway. No nag no warning just booted.
tesla’s fix is removal of FSD right now.

FSD(junk).