Next Report would be: I ran into the car in front of me while looking at which pedal to press. LOLMaybe all auto makers should do something like VW with their ID.4. Yes, this is for real.
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Next Report would be: I ran into the car in front of me while looking at which pedal to press. LOLMaybe all auto makers should do something like VW with their ID.4. Yes, this is for real.
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Plus if they were actually pressing the brake pedal, as claimed, cruise control would not be active.The other possibility is cruise control being toggled on (accidental activation), but OP already said that wasn't what happened.
While braking (accelerator was not applied) to park in a parking lot, the car accelerated, ran over two poles & bushes going through a walkway and swiped a parked car before finally stopping.
Its usually someone regen braking and panickng , because they forget that the pedal that they are letting off of to slow down is also the one that accelerates the vehicle.
That's confusing. Break this theory down Barney style for me...
So, someone is driving through a parking lot and let's off the accelerator. The car starts regen braking. The driver needs to further reduce speed to turn into a parking spot so he mistakenly hits the accelerator? I just don't understand that.
I've been a member of dozens of car forums but this is the only one I ever see these types of accidents (I think this is the third I've seen). I just don't get it.
It pretty common in all kinds of cars. The person gets distracted, suddenly realizes they need to stop, panics, and hits the wrong pedal. I can't say I particularly buy that regen braking is much of a contributing factor.I've been a member of dozens of car forums but this is the only one I ever see these types of accidents (I think this is the third I've seen). I just don't get it.
So, someone is driving through a parking lot and let's off the accelerator. The car starts regen braking. The driver needs to further reduce speed to turn into a parking spot so he mistakenly hits the accelerator? I just don't understand that.
At this point every car manufacturer has been accused of this occurring with one or more of their models. It is not all that hard to make that mistake, heck I did it once in my Infiniti Q50. I was positive I was pressing the brake and I wont up driving over a curb before realizing my mistake. No damage or anything but all I can say is in my mind I was POSITIVE I was pressing the brake, and yet I was completely wrong. The thing is most people, faced with the reality of their own mistake and large repair bills, jump into the “unintended acceleration” mode. Which like was said previously, is impossible if you are pressing the brake. The brake in every car can overpower the engine easily.That's confusing. Break this theory down Barney style for me...
So, someone is driving through a parking lot and let's off the accelerator. The car starts regen braking. The driver needs to further reduce speed to turn into a parking spot so he mistakenly hits the accelerator? I just don't understand that.
Removing your foot from the accelerator and then braking is the universal way to make a turn so I can't comprehend what's different about a Tesla that causes people to remove their foot from the accelerator and then press the accelerator to brake.
I've been a member of dozens of car forums but this is the only one I ever see these types of accidents (I think this is the third I've seen). I just don't get it.
I've been on a lot of them. I suppose I could have missed those posts. Or I'm starting to forget things since hitting 40.Really?
Because tons of other cars have made massive headlines about exactly this type of accident.
What car forums have you been on where nobody ever claimed unintended acceleration?
Its really simple actually. Someone who is not used to driving a tesla, and is not "hard wired" into what regen braking is, is driving along somewhere, maybe partially distracted, then takes their foot off the accelerator pedal to start braking for "some reason". Perhaps a parking spot, perhaps as they pull into their driveway and the garage is closed.
They realize the car is not slowing down enough, panic, then hit the last pedal they hit the pedal they were pushing before, as that is the one they were just interacting with.
if you have been a member of multiple car forums, you have to have seen posts with people crashing into their garages, through other obstacles, and convinced that they were stepping on the brake.
Its more common with cars with regen braking, and drivers new to the platforum. Just like a new driver who has been driving for "a couple of months" thinks "I know how to drive", but actually does not have all the reactions hardwired into their brain, and many times makes mistakes when distracted (thus many states have rules about younger drivers not driving people around to reduce distractions) , same thing applies here.
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The reason I am saying regen can be a factor, is because the person can already be slowing down, but "not enough" so reacts to push a pedal to slow down more. I do agree I have seen this exact type of post (unintended acceleration) in basically every car forum I have been in, though.
Not sure if you are asking me. But I only “thought” I was braking. I was actually pressing the accelerator harder and harder until i jumped the curb and luckily came to my senses and letup.OP, a couple of months back someone made a post stating that the car he bought brand new from Tesla was wrecked before he bought it. When he finally tracked down the accident report it said that someone was parking after a test drive and mistakenly accelerated into the wall of Tesla service center. Sounds like that may be similar to what you did.
Curious, if you were braking while the car was accelerating what actually caused the car to finally come to a stop? Did you hit an immovable object (tree, building, etc)?
You see stuck accelerators now and again, which would not be too big a problem except some people don't seem to realize that the answer is to apply the brake hard enough to override the engine and slow the car down.
I was asking the OP, since he thinks he was braking while the car was running over things.Not sure if you are asking me. But I only “thought” I was braking. I was actually pressing the accelerator harder and harder until i jumped the curb and luckily came to my senses and letup.
In regards to the fawn part of this response, can anyone point me to a thread on wildlife avoidance? I don't have FSD, and have had to swerve to avoid deer and raccoon's, while the car did nothing. I also ran over an (already dead) raccoon, also no warning, and it was a big one.Tesla now automatically prevents 40 accidental accelerations per day when people mistakenly use the accelerator instead of the brake. It's too bad this didn't happen for the incident reported by the OP.
OT: Two weeks ago, a small fawn darted right in front of my car at night when I was on a back road going about 20 MPH. I was certain there was going to be a big mess but the car stopped magically fast and we missed the deer by inches. This is a single anecdote but I am confident that Teslas stop quickly when you step on the brake.
The minimum stopping distance going 20 MPH is 20 feet. I am certain the deer was much closer than 20 feet when I saw it in front of my car therefore AP must have started applying the brakes before I even saw the deer.
In regards to the fawn part of this response, can anyone point me to a thread on wildlife avoidance? I don't have FSD
My Y has slapped on the brakes unexpectedly approximately 16,734 times in 4,700 miles. However, once in the middle of the night, lonely narrow dirt road out in the country, trees and bushes on both sides, no other cars around. It came to a complete stop, so I just waited and looked around to see if I could figure out why. After 20 or 30 seconds, I could make out a deer standing in the bushes by the side of the road. In a little bit the deer walked out on the road, turned and walked up to the front of the car, looked at it a while, then turned around and sauntered slowly down the middle of the road. At 50' or so away, the car began to slowly follow him. After a bit the deer veered off to the left side and wandered away and the car resumed on down the road. So all the stupid stuff that I hate is offset by absolutely brilliant behavior sometimes. I was impressed, because it took me a long time to see the deer, but the car did exactly the right thing. {Sorry, it was easier to just copy the post I made soon after I got the car. I couldn't figure out how to just link to the original.}In regards to the fawn part of this response, can anyone point me to a thread on wildlife avoidance? I don't have FSD, and have had to swerve to avoid deer and raccoon's, while the car did nothing. I also ran over an (already dead) raccoon, also no warning, and it was a big one.
I pass deer literally, every morning, on the side of the road. I slow right down so they don't spook and run in front of me. The screen has never showed one on it. I don't get it.My Y has slapped on the brakes unexpectedly approximately 16,734 times in 4,700 miles. However, once in the middle of the night, lonely narrow dirt road out in the country, trees and bushes on both sides, no other cars around. It came to a complete stop, so I just waited and looked around to see if I could figure out why. After 20 or 30 seconds, I could make out a deer standing in the bushes by the side of the road. In a little bit the deer walked out on the road, turned and walked up to the front of the car, looked at it a while, then turned around and sauntered slowly down the middle of the road. At 50' or so away, the car began to slowly follow him. After a bit the deer veered off to the left side and wandered away and the car resumed on down the road. So all the stupid stuff that I hate is offset by absolutely brilliant behavior sometimes. I was impressed, because it took me a long time to see the deer, but the car did exactly the right thing. {Sorry, it was easier to just copy the post I made soon after I got the car. I couldn't figure out how to just link to the original.}