6.4 kWh now?

[Fallenone]

I just found that on TE's official website it's not 6.4 kWh, not 7 kWh. Anyone know anything going on?

 

[roblab]

I just found that on TE's official website it's not 6.4 kWh, not 7 kWh. Anyone know anything going on?

I don't KNOW. But I recall they reserve about 5% on the car battery to keep it from bricking. May be similar.

 

[Fallenone]

Yeh I suppose TE also has this too. Maybe the thread for the S85 != 85kWh made them more cautious about labeling the battery size?

I don't KNOW. But I recall they reserve about 5% on the car battery to keep it from bricking. May be similar.

 

[Ulmo]

I just found that on TE's official website it's not 6.4 kWh, not 7 kWh. Anyone know anything going on?

I applaud this move. Tesla is trying to (at least a little) clean up their spec quotes to what is reality. Either that, or this is the version 2 that is different.

 

[Aussie]

The reason is a different one. The Panasonic cell isn't made for high cycle life. Doing 500 cycles in a car at 300 miles range each gives you 150,000 miles, a respectable performance for a car. However in home storage, you are charging and discharging once a day so the battery would be gone after 1.5 years. So get to the 3000 cycles required for storage, Tesla is doing a few things: limiting charge and discharge to lower C rates as much as possible, not leaving the unit at very high or low charges, controlling temperature and keeping extra capacity so the initial degradation isn't so visible (and to not having to fully charge).

 

[strood]

The Australian first Powerwall owner said his was rated to 5,000 cycles. That's certainly impressive if true

 

[Robertj]

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[omgwtfbyobbq]

The Australian first Powerwall owner said his was rated to 5,000 cycles. That's certainly impressive if true

That sounds right, something like ~1.5 cycles/day over the 10 year warranty period.

 

[S'toon]

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“We have seen enormous interest in the Daily Powerwall worldwide,” according to a statement provided to GTM. “The Daily Powerwall supports daily use applications like solar self-consumption plus backup power applications, and can offer backup simply by modifying the way it is installed in a home. Due to the interest, we have decided to focus entirely on building and deploying the 7-kilowatt-hour Daily Powerwall at this time.”

At the original unveiling of its new home battery system, Tesla said that there would be two versions, a smaller capacity 7-kilowatt-hour model priced at $3000 and a 10-kilowatt-hour for $3500 — both for different purposes. The 10kWh battery was to be optimized for energy backup, while the 7kWh system is for daily use. Tesla seemingly suggests that the latter has received much more interest.

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Full article at:
Tesla confirmed having discontinued the 10 kWh Powerwall for backup power to focus on daily cycling version

I was wondering about that.

 

[Cosmacelf]

So the 10kwh version of the Powerwall was just vapor ware?

 

[S'toon]

So the 10kwh version of the Powerwall was just vapor ware?

More like the S 40 I'd say. Not enough people wanted so it was discontinued.

 

[Ampster]

Yes, and part of the explanation is that the payback of a daily recycler helps justify the cost.

 

[ecarfan]

So the 10kwh version of the Powerwall was just vapor ware?

No, it was real. But the market response to the two Powerwall versions likely caused Tesla to reconsider producing it, for now. Keep in mind that the 7kWh Powerwall can be used as backup if needed. This was confirmed to me by the person at Tesla Energy that I have been dealing with. The 10kW version was backup only.