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mspohr
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How a top US business lobby promised climate action – but worked to block efforts
Today, on the statement’s third anniversary, the Business Roundtable and its member CEOs continue to issue earnest statements about the climate crisis. But the organization is also working diligently – and spending liberally – to weaken efforts that would enable investors to hold companies accountable for their climate promises.
Yet when the US government has tried to put the “proper policies” in place, the Business Roundtable has worked to undermine those efforts. In 2021, the organization spent millions of dollars to stop the Biden administration’s Build Back Better agenda, which included significant efforts to reduce carbon emissions and promote clean energy. And this year, after the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) proposed a long-anticipated rule that would require publicly held companies to disclose their carbon emissions and the risks that climate change poses to their business models, the Business Roundtable declared its opposition to central aspects of the SEC proposal, including provisions that experts say are vital for the rule to give investors comparable and consistent information about corporations’ climate risks.
Today, on the statement’s third anniversary, the Business Roundtable and its member CEOs continue to issue earnest statements about the climate crisis. But the organization is also working diligently – and spending liberally – to weaken efforts that would enable investors to hold companies accountable for their climate promises.
Yet when the US government has tried to put the “proper policies” in place, the Business Roundtable has worked to undermine those efforts. In 2021, the organization spent millions of dollars to stop the Biden administration’s Build Back Better agenda, which included significant efforts to reduce carbon emissions and promote clean energy. And this year, after the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) proposed a long-anticipated rule that would require publicly held companies to disclose their carbon emissions and the risks that climate change poses to their business models, the Business Roundtable declared its opposition to central aspects of the SEC proposal, including provisions that experts say are vital for the rule to give investors comparable and consistent information about corporations’ climate risks.
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Whether you’re a climate ‘doomer’ or ‘appeaser’, it’s best to prepare for the worst | Bill McGuire
Our world is on course for a climate cataclysm. Or is it? Not long ago, the global heating battle lines were clear: you either believed it was happening, and that it resulted from the colossal volumes of carbon spewed out by human activities, or you didn’t. As the year on year breakdown of our once stable climate has become more apparent, however, denial has become increasingly irrelevant, and new battle lines are being drawn.
While widespread blistering heat, drought and wildfires have kept climate change in the public eye, they have also heightened tensions between those I call climate appeasers, who seek to minimise how bad climate breakdown will ultimately be, and others, disparagingly branded doomers (or doomists), who are honestly concerned that it may be catastrophic, perhaps even posing an existential threat to civilisation and possibly humankind itself.
The reality is that our understanding of potential tipping points and feedback effects remains too poorly constrained for us to be confident of how severe climate breakdown will end up proving to be. Furthermore, minimising the potential impact of climate breakdown is more likely to lead to increased reticence in relation to slashing emissions than any potential exaggeration of the likely endgame. A middle of the road route would be to no one’s advantage – so, as for most situations wherein the risk is hard to quantify, there is only one sensible way forward: to hope for the best, while preparing for the worst.
Our world is on course for a climate cataclysm. Or is it? Not long ago, the global heating battle lines were clear: you either believed it was happening, and that it resulted from the colossal volumes of carbon spewed out by human activities, or you didn’t. As the year on year breakdown of our once stable climate has become more apparent, however, denial has become increasingly irrelevant, and new battle lines are being drawn.
While widespread blistering heat, drought and wildfires have kept climate change in the public eye, they have also heightened tensions between those I call climate appeasers, who seek to minimise how bad climate breakdown will ultimately be, and others, disparagingly branded doomers (or doomists), who are honestly concerned that it may be catastrophic, perhaps even posing an existential threat to civilisation and possibly humankind itself.
The reality is that our understanding of potential tipping points and feedback effects remains too poorly constrained for us to be confident of how severe climate breakdown will end up proving to be. Furthermore, minimising the potential impact of climate breakdown is more likely to lead to increased reticence in relation to slashing emissions than any potential exaggeration of the likely endgame. A middle of the road route would be to no one’s advantage – so, as for most situations wherein the risk is hard to quantify, there is only one sensible way forward: to hope for the best, while preparing for the worst.
mspohr
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Heatwave in China is the most severe ever recorded in the world
A long spell of extreme hot and dry weather is affecting energy, water supplies and food production across China
www.newscientist.com
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John Oliver on corporate ‘net zero’ proposals: ‘We cannot offset our way out of climate change’
The Last Week Tonight host digs into the overstated promises of corporate carbon neutrality through ‘carbon offset’ schemes
www.theguardian.com
But “on some level, you probably know that carbon offsets are bullshit, both because you’re a reasonably intelligent person and because you know exactly what show you are watching right now. I don’t open my beak to squawk out good news.”But exactly how offsets are bullshit is really interesting,” he continued, “because it’s easy to say that you are reducing carbon emissions but it is much harder to prove it. And the truth is, there aren’t many checks and balances in place to prevent abuse.”
He did an ok job on this, but I think CBS Morning came at it with a better approach. More facts, than antics....and I love John, he just missed it with this segment.John Oliver on corporate ‘net zero’ proposals: ‘We cannot offset our way out of climate change’
The Last Week Tonight host digs into the overstated promises of corporate carbon neutrality through ‘carbon offset’ schemes
But “on some level, you probably know that carbon offsets are bullshit, both because you’re a reasonably intelligent person and because you know exactly what show you are watching right now. I don’t open my beak to squawk out good news.”But exactly how offsets are bullshit is really interesting,” he continued, “because it’s easy to say that you are reducing carbon emissions but it is much harder to prove it. And the truth is, there aren’t many checks and balances in place to prevent abuse.”
WTF is he talking about!?! He's lost his marbles....geez....just when I think he says something smart, he goes and tweets this stuff. He's not in the sex industry, he's in the energy industry. C'MON man.
mspohr
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There’s a lot of nuance to this which Elon seems to miss. US immigration will blunt the issue here. China, Europe and Russia will see bigger issues with an aging population. Automation will blunt the problem. Considering Elon’s statements about where he sees robotics going, his stance on this issue doesn’t make sense. Additionally there is a lot going on in longevity research. Just look at Yamanaka factor research.
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Welcome to the new normal
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Pakistan floods: Monsoons bring misery to millions in Pakistan
Historic downpours and major floods have battered the nation since June, killing hundreds.
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We're not going to put the genie back into the bottle, are we?Welcome to the new normal
Pakistan floods: Monsoons bring misery to millions in Pakistan
Historic downpours and major floods have battered the nation since June, killing hundreds.
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New Scientist: Rewetting dried wetlands could stop 100 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Rewetting dried wetlands could stop 100 billion tons of CO2 emissions
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This is climate change
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Europe facing its worst drought in 500 years - study
Europe is facing its worst drought in at least 500 years, with two-thirds of the continent in a state of alert or warning, reducing inland shipping, electricity production and the yields of certain crops, a European Union agency said on Tuesday.
www.reuters.com
Zombie ice from Greenland will raise sea level 10 inches
A new study finds that Greenland has more than 120 trillion tons of ice that can be thought of as zombie ice that's going to raise sea level globally by at least 10 inches.
apnews.com
Jackson mayor urges residents to 'get out now' as Mississippi braces for river flooding after record rainfall
Chokwe Antar Lumumba said it's possible for 100 to 150 homes to be affected in floods from the Pearl River.
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As Colorado River Dries, the U.S. Teeters on the Brink of Larger Water Crisis
The megadrought gripping the western states is only part of the problem. Alternative sources of water are also imperiled, and the nation’s food along with it.
www.propublica.org
Iraq’s perfect storm – a climate and environmental crisis amid the scars of war
In our latest piece exploring the link between climate change, the environment and conflict, we focus on some of the issues facing people in southern Iraq.
ElectricIAC
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I wouldn’t mind some dry weather so I can take advantage of the rest of the viable pool season without firing up the heater.This is climate change
Europe facing its worst drought in 500 years - study
Europe is facing its worst drought in at least 500 years, with two-thirds of the continent in a state of alert or warning, reducing inland shipping, electricity production and the yields of certain crops, a European Union agency said on Tuesday.
Zombie ice from Greenland will raise sea level 10 inches
A new study finds that Greenland has more than 120 trillion tons of ice that can be thought of as zombie ice that's going to raise sea level globally by at least 10 inches.
Jackson mayor urges residents to 'get out now' as Mississippi braces for river flooding after record rainfall
Chokwe Antar Lumumba said it's possible for 100 to 150 homes to be affected in floods from the Pearl River.
As Colorado River Dries, the U.S. Teeters on the Brink of Larger Water Crisis
The megadrought gripping the western states is only part of the problem. Alternative sources of water are also imperiled, and the nation’s food along with it.
Iraq’s perfect storm – a climate and environmental crisis amid the scars of war
In our latest piece exploring the link between climate change, the environment and conflict, we focus on some of the issues facing people in southern Iraq.
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