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Discussion of Interstellar Travel
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Hmm...limited imagination. Never say “never”. Such statements have been made throughout human history and often been proven wrong. And ask Newton about the “basic laws of physics” and how they will never change. Then ask Einstein. They’ve changed, and they will continue to change was we learn more about the universe.
The point of the new BFS “Starship” name change is to inspire people. Going to Mars is a journey out towards the stars. The new name is not meant to literally say that the vehicle being built right now will take humans to another star.
By the way; the Voyager probe has left our solar system and is headed to the stars.
If one does not think beyond the timeline of a human generation, one cannot lay the foundation for future discoveries.
Michael Wolman @mwolman98
Unless this "starship" is sent on a mission to another star system it can't be called a starship
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Elon Musk @elonmusk
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Classic Elon. Think big, go long. That’s how lasting change is accomplished.
Small minds with limited imaginations need not apply.
Unless this "starship" is sent on a mission to another star system it can't be called a starship
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Elon Musk @elonmusk
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Classic Elon. Think big, go long. That’s how lasting change is accomplished.
Small minds with limited imaginations need not apply.
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New electron smell
I really hope you are wrong. But I also think you may be right.
Hope! Breakthrough Starshot - Wikipedia
Dream! Logic be damned!
Back on topic...
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Actually, I think you're correct. However, while I'm pretty skeptical of them, the Singularity people likely would disagree. At a minimum they'd likely postulate a post-human machine being more than capable of traveling to a star, even if it took decades, or even centuries.
Yeah, sometimes its hard to imagine past what we know.
Today, its theoretically possible to travel to other stars, but its really REALLY impractical to the point of being quite comfortably impossible. Depending on what technology you pick and who does the math, we're pretty much talking a best case of tens of thousands of years to get to to AC or PC.
So, "never"--in the context of today's technology--is quite correct.
What's more interesting to me is imagining feasible technology...and I'm not talking about warping spacetime or anything like that, but concepts that we've actually thought about and that actually [kinda] work out on paper. Consider that we're only 200 years into the industrial revolution and 150 years into science fiction. If the prophetic nature of science fiction to-date is any indication, in a few centuries we're absolutely going to have the technology to easily overtake any kind of early 21st century generational transport to other star systems...so it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to worry about how we could get there today. There's plenty of lessons to be learned within our own solar system; most of which will directly benefit eventual interstellar travel.
Fuel cells cars will 'never' be more efficient than pure battery powered EVs. That is not a question of todays technology. It is basic physics.
https://www.quora.com/Will-we-ever-travel-to-other-stars/answer/Chris-Craddock
Agree.
We can also agree that the various proposed methods of future space travel are, as a matter of basic physics, more efficient than chemical propulsion.
So then it’s a matter of how much more efficient and how that affects travel time. There’s an inflection point in there somewhere and we’re definitely not smart enough today to know if that inflection point comes before or after the bookend of human feasibility.
4.2441, to be more precise. I think everyone is aware of that. I certainly am. It does not change my position on the appropriateness of Elon changing the name of the BFR/BFS to “Starship”.
And that has nothing to do with what we are discussing in this thread.
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