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Elon & Twitter
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If he wants to make Twitter allow free speech as defined by the law, he gets 4chan, and it's a death sentence for Twitter (or at least a reduction to what 4chan is). No question, this is a challenging space. It'll be interesting to see what happens, and good to know I have no skin in the game.
He’s not credible. Prison time for six charges for sex crimes with a child, KGB wife, Putin talking points,,,,
No credible news organization is saying these things. and you can’t wiggle out of that with internet conspiracyspeak like “the independent news...” “many sites” This is conspiracy gobbledygook.
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His explanation was that Trump had a louder megaphone with the right if banned from Twitter. But that’s not at all the point. Trump already has persuaded many of them. Giving him a much much larger platform to reach people not yet exposed to election lies etc IS the problem.
You do have to admire Elon’s misguided confidence in the ability of the American public to listen to a cesspool, sort it out and come to a rational conclusion.
98 percent of the people who read his stuff wouldn’t bother to check who he was. do you do that with people you skim on Twitter?
He absolutely WILL go back on Twitter. For the same reason Elon is buying it: They are both addicted to tweeting. It’s like heroin to them. They just can’t stop. And it made Trump what he is.
So cute of Elon to say in the interview Trump had said he wasn’t coming back to Twitter. He is somehow unaware of Trump’s official lie count while in office.
Despite the fact that of those thousands of fibs were told .... on Twitter.
Oh, and a prediction: He will make is a big, dramatic event, a Major Announcement about What My Decision On Coming Back to Twitter Is.
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_Redshift_
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Thats the aspiration, anyway. Reality and the hangover will hit the next morning.
Biden doesn't think it's a problem, in fact he's counting on Elon Musk to bring Trump back on twitter, in order to help democrats win midterm:
Bidenworld wants to make the midterms more about Trump and hopes Elon Musk helps
The election will be either a referendum or a contrast. The president’s team prefers the latter.
www.politico.com
Surprise, Elon Musk and EU see eye to eye with regard to social media rules:
www.wsj.com
(It's a surprise to those doomsayers at least, to us who has followed Musk for a few years, it's no surprise at all, he understands how regulation works, given his other companies are all in heavily regulated industries)
Elon Musk Says His Twitter Plans Align With EU’s New Social-Media Rules
The tech entrepreneur met with Europe’s commissioner for the internal market during a visit to Austin, Texas, where the two discussed the European Union’s new Digital Services Act.
www.wsj.com
(It's a surprise to those doomsayers at least, to us who has followed Musk for a few years, it's no surprise at all, he understands how regulation works, given his other companies are all in heavily regulated industries)
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This article is remarkably unspecific. His understanding of regulation, in any case, isn’t really the question here. This issues at hand center mainly on the nature of internal corporate rules, and on the public perception of Twitter and Tesla.Surprise, Elon Musk and EU see eye to eye with regard to social media rules:
Elon Musk Says His Twitter Plans Align With EU’s New Social-Media Rules
The tech entrepreneur met with Europe’s commissioner for the internal market during a visit to Austin, Texas, where the two discussed the European Union’s new Digital Services Act.
(It's a surprise to those doomsayers at least, to us who has followed Musk for a few years, it's no surprise at all, he understands how regulation works, given his other companies are all in heavily regulated industries)
So, Biden’s people expect something unpleasant to occur with Twitter. Meh. Whether he’s right or wrong, it doesn’t sound like he expects something healthy for public discourse, Twitter or Tesla to come of this.Biden doesn't think it's a problem, in fact he's counting on Elon Musk to bring Trump back on twitter, in order to help democrats win midterm:
Bidenworld wants to make the midterms more about Trump and hopes Elon Musk helps
The election will be either a referendum or a contrast. The president’s team prefers the latter.
Making the midterms about Trump would be repeating a disastrous strategy that made them lose Virginia. The reality is that no one outside of the media actually seems to care about Trump one way or the other. But realistically the Democrats are going to get thrashed in November no matter what, all they are doing is trying to reduce the degree of the beating.Biden doesn't think it's a problem, in fact he's counting on Elon Musk to bring Trump back on twitter, in order to help democrats win midterm:
Bidenworld wants to make the midterms more about Trump and hopes Elon Musk helps
The election will be either a referendum or a contrast. The president’s team prefers the latter.
Meanwhile, Jack Dorsey agrees with Elon:
But it was perfectly fine pre Elon when Twitter did this because they picked the left? Got it.
Elon is going off the cuff. Twitter has an actual policy it follows that does not cater to either side. It's not twitters fault more prominent right wing politicians and media were engaging in hate speech
JRP3
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Exactly. Plus even with the right I suspect most of them stayed on Twitter and did not move to other right leaning "free speech" platforms, which of course had their own restrictions on speech. Truth Social restricts what you can post but none of our free speech advocates here seem to care about that.
bkp_duke
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Elon addressed the "permanent banning" of Trump and anyone else VERY clearly yesterday in his FT interview. If you haven't watched it, you should watch it.
Basically, he stated that permanent bans should not exist, except for bots and spammers. Trump's ban should not have happened because all it did was "give Trump a larger voice" after the ban, and energize and polarize further his base.
Those here that think Elon doesn't understand the nuances of social media I guess haven't seen that interview and realized Elon appears to have put a LOT of thought into this.
My only question to Elon remains: "How can I invest?"
Basically, he stated that permanent bans should not exist, except for bots and spammers. Trump's ban should not have happened because all it did was "give Trump a larger voice" after the ban, and energize and polarize further his base.
Those here that think Elon doesn't understand the nuances of social media I guess haven't seen that interview and realized Elon appears to have put a LOT of thought into this.
My only question to Elon remains: "How can I invest?"
bkp_duke
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Patently false. Many MANY on the right left twitter after Elon's ban. There is roundabout data to support this, because after Elon announced he was buying Twitter, the number of followers for many GOP politicians increased on a daily basis 20-30X more per day than their normal daily gain.
GOP politicians attribute it to Twitter turning off shadow bans, but I think it is more likely that people on the right decided to give the platform a re-look.
easy. buy twitter shares. they’re trading well under Elon’s offer because the market doesn’t believe he can follow through on the deal.
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