stopcrazypp
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Seems like it's a parallel hybrid. I was under the impression it was serial. The relatively strong engine/generator makes more sense I suppose.
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Seems like it's a parallel hybrid. I was under the impression it was serial. The relatively strong engine/generator makes more sense I suppose.
stopcrazypp
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That's a real problem. Additionally, the Karma will likely beat the Model S to market by over a year.
IMO comparing the model S to the Karma is still apples to oranges. model S is a BEV, and allegedly much cheaper. Moreover, by the time it comes out, Tesla will have a reputation for quality or junk... I'd imagine some visitors to this site will have posted their actual experiences [I hope]. But I am very excited to see model S...we're still years away from production.
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I am not sure I agree (as much as I do want to see the Model S). The company took a lot of heat for showing the Roadster early, and then having delays getting it to market (meanwhile the fall of the dollar and other things continued to push up the price)
They may be trying to rectify this by waiting until they have their financing more securely in place to produce the Model S before showing it. It would be more bad PR for Tesla to show off a car, and then delay bringing it out another year because they didn't have the money to produce it. The only reason to show it off before they have the finances in place to make it would be if they think they can get more financing by showing it to the public.
There have been published articles that claim they plan to reveal the Model S in Geneva (which I think is in March).
Detroit Auto Show: Fisker Karma Gets A Starting Price Of $87,900, We Get First Front Shot Of Tesla-Killer
I love this in the comments...
I also have to say I agree with some of the commenters that with figures like that, it should easily be a lot quicker to 60 than 5.8 seconds. Either that or it is *very* heavy.
I love this in the comments...
I dig the mustache grille. It's very "Frankly, my dear, I don't give air dam"
I also have to say I agree with some of the commenters that with figures like that, it should easily be a lot quicker to 60 than 5.8 seconds. Either that or it is *very* heavy.
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That nose looks much better, almost Austin Martin-like.
The wife has had her car in the shop a lot lately and warranty just expired. With the latest Karma price increase and the car a year away (don't know if she has a production #) she is looking elsewhere. She would also consider a Model S but that's even further away.
She is currently looking at used Lexus Hybrids.
The wife has had her car in the shop a lot lately and warranty just expired. With the latest Karma price increase and the car a year away (don't know if she has a production #) she is looking elsewhere. She would also consider a Model S but that's even further away.
She is currently looking at used Lexus Hybrids.
Wired thinks it is a series hybrid (not parallel as mentioned above) and at 4650 pounds, it is indeed heavy. A 22.6kWh battery too.
Unfortunately, all of this mocking of Fisker's Karma is not going to amount to much if the guys at Tesla don't get their collective 5h!t together and start mass producing a marketable product.
It's market saturation that does more for an emerging technology/product to secure public acceptance and encourage desire for it, not to mention increasing demand for the improvement for said technology, as well as push sales demands.
Tesla is and has been at the cusp of the EV movement...it would be a shame if they let their edge dull due to personality conflicts/differing business ideologies...oh, wait a second....
It's market saturation that does more for an emerging technology/product to secure public acceptance and encourage desire for it, not to mention increasing demand for the improvement for said technology, as well as push sales demands.
Tesla is and has been at the cusp of the EV movement...it would be a shame if they let their edge dull due to personality conflicts/differing business ideologies...oh, wait a second....
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