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How to Tell a P85 vs P85+ (besides the badging)

Discussion in 'Model S' started by MrJue, Sep 5, 2017.

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  1. MrJue

    MrJue Member

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    Hi Gents - again looking into purchasing a P85+. I previously test drove one but on the Nav Screen I could've sworn the car simply said P85 (without the "+"). Can we decipher the whether an MS is a P85 or P85+ based via the vin?

    I can ask the seller again but he swears its a P85+ but then again he once told me the car was a 2014 when it was a 2013 haha
     
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    It will in fact show up on the center display and the driver display.
     
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  3. thecloud

    thecloud As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive

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    As far as I know, there is nothing in the VIN to distinguish a P85 from a P85+. You need to look at the instrument panel when first getting into the car (before it's turned on), and/or the "about box" which is displayed by pressing the 'T' at the top of the center display. Have the seller send you a picture of that panel (which will also confirm the car's mileage, since the odometer is displayed there.)

    Edit: Tesla VIN decoder is here, but forum software doesn't allow FTP links:
    ftp://ftp.nhtsa.dot.gov/mfrmail/ORG9130.pdf
     
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  4. JohnnyG

    JohnnyG Weee!

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    We can't decipher based on the VIN, but Tesla can tell you how that VIN was configured from the factory. I'd call them with the VIN and ask for a breakdown. Also ask the guy for the Monroney sticker or even better yet, have him login to MyTesla and you can look there.
     
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  5. MrJue

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    Thanks for the quick replies. I called Tesla and they confirmed it to be a P85+. Amazing customer service, I think it would've taken hours or days to get that info from say BMW :D

    Also found this thread that confirms that sometimes the screen shows P85 over P85+...

    No "P85+" logo on main screen or dashboard, just "P85"
     
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  6. HankLloydRight

    HankLloydRight Fluxing

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    Besides the screen info, you can look at the rear wheels, the tires should be 265/35/21 size.

    But not always, as I de-staggered my P85+ to put on 245s on the rear, but I suspect that is a rare exception. A few people might have staggered their P85s, but that also isn't very common.
     
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    If Tesla confirmed it to be P85+, the current owner can also call and request the graphics in-car to be updated.
     
  8. Bighorn

    Bighorn Former Top Supercharger

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    My dash and screen incorrectly showed my P85+ to be a P85 for the first 4 years, so that's not a valid disqualifier.
     
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    My P85+ shows as P85 on the screen. I bought it directly from Tesla. I did ask about updating the screen. One tech tried but was unable to. I've also destaggered the wheels. Mine was built in June 2013.
     
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    Bighorn Former Top Supercharger

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    I finally requested it at my last service visit and they had no trouble doing it. I know I'm not the first. Mine was a July 2013 build.
     
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    Confirming yet another early P85+ that did not have correct in-car badging. Asking the service center to fix it was all it took to get the images updated.
     
  12. cab

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    There is a tag (maybe under hood or on driver's side door frame I think) that shows the wheel/tire size. I think the P85+s show the staggered tire sizes (larger 265s in the rear) and inflation pressures.

    As an aside, a lot of features were getting added as the P85+s were being introduced. I held out for one with parking sensors, but didn't care about folding mirrors.
     
  13. Xenoilphobe

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    Easy - superior handling. Also check the door sticker and look for staggered 21's.
     

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