Is this 2016 P90DL a good buy?

[4AWD]

Thanks to this forum and great folks, have been learning a lot on Tesla. Came across this P90DL lowest I can find which meets my color & specs (SAS, subzero, AP). Requested pictures and if satisfactory like to pull the trigger on this anything I need to worry about? i.e battery? This does come with 4year/50k warranty.

Model S P90D 5YJSA1E45GF134019 | Tesla

 

[rjscoder]

That's a body colored roof

Model S P90D 5YJSA1E44FF111118 | Tesla

Why not this one?

 

[NickFie]

Very nicely equipped. Solid roof and yacht floor are both rare features.

It may have only Autopilot 1. That’s pretty good on the highway but off the enhancement roadmap. Drove AP1 loaner S85 Philadelphia-Cleveland and back one weekend last last fall, was happy with Autopilot.

Early S90 batteries had problems. You would be covered under warranty. Might get lucky and end up with 100 replacement.

 

[NickFie]

That's a body colored roof

Model S P90D 5YJSA1E44FF111118 | Tesla

Why not this one?

Different warranty, for one.

 

[rjscoder]

Different warranty, for one.

You really value +2 years of warranty at $9k?

 

[gaswalla]

I’d get a p85D for 10-15k less.

 

[4AWD]

Thats was quick - 2016 Tesla Model S 5YJSA1E45GF134019 | False, Fa | Tesla

Good point on the roof My wife wants one too!

Photos look good except hood has multiple scratches one area on left look like keyed in....

 

[playoutside]

It’s a fair deal, not a good deal. If you watch EV-cpo.com, you’ll be able to find a similarly equipped car in the mid $50s with a pano roof.

Or spend $5K more and get a facelift version.

 

[rjscoder]

It’s a fair deal, not a good deal. If you watch EV-cpo.com, you’ll be able to find a similarly equipped car in the mid $50s with a pano roof.

Or spend $5K more and get a facelift version.

55k for facelift p90dl? where?

 

[wordless888]

There are no facelifts with ludicrous for that cheap. The cheapest one was $66k. There are some in the archives that were $61-62k, but they were actually not ludicrous despite the ev-cpo thinking they were.

 

[EV-CPO]

There are no facelifts with ludicrous for that cheap. The cheapest one was $66k. There are some in the archives that were $61-62k, but they were actually not ludicrous despite the ev-cpo thinking they were.

I'm curious on what information you're basing this on? All those cars in the $61k range did have the BP01 Ludicrous Upgrade option code (See below). If these cars did not actually have the Ludicrous upgrade, then the option code data direct from Tesla was inaccurate, or Tesla was stripping Ludicrous mode from these cars before sale, but still advertised them as Ludicrous.

 

[rjscoder]

I missed buying that fully loaded p90dL facelift for 61k by just a couple hours from a few days ago was my dream car

 

[wordless888]

I'm curious on what information you're basing this on? All those cars in the $61k range did have the BP01 Ludicrous Upgrade option code (See below). If these cars did not actually have the Ludicrous upgrade, then the option code data direct from Tesla was inaccurate, or Tesla was stripping Ludicrous mode from these cars before sale, but still advertised them as Ludicrous.


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I saw the actual pictures and none of them had the underline on the rear badge or on the center screen, so they must have mid-labeled them.

 

[wordless888]

I missed buying that fully loaded p90dL facelift for 61k by just a couple hours from a few days ago was my dream car

I saw those pics - it wasn’t ludicrous. The pictures showed that it was a standard P90D.

 

[wordless888]

Here’s one:

VIN 5YJSA1E46GF137818

Listed as a facelift P90DL that sold for $61k but here are the pics:

2016 Tesla Model S 5YJSA1E46GF137818

I think that’s the one you were referring to rjscoder

 

[EV-CPO]

I saw the actual pictures and none of them had the underline on the rear badge or on the center screen, so they must have mid-labeled them.

I don't think you can go by the photos alone. I believe the "underline" came later You'd have to get in the car and look at the driving settings to see if they had Ludicrous mode, which I would bet they all had. If I look at the source JSON code from when those cars were originally listed on Tesla's website, they all had the P90DL internal trim code, as well as the BP01 option code. See a data extract view below:

 

[wordless888]

I don't think you can go by the photos alone. I believe the "underline" came later You'd have to get in the car and look at the driving settings to see if they had Ludicrous mode, which I would bet they all had. If I look at the source JSON code from when those cars were originally listed on Tesla's website, they all had the P90DL internal trim code, as well as the BP01 option code. See a data extract view below:

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Ah, good to know. I still find it hard to believe that they’d sell a facelift P90DL for $61k. Also, there is such a sharp line in price between the ones selling for $61k vs $66k that to me, it implies that it would be a P90D without ludicrous.

Also, 2015 P90DLs had underlines so why wouldn’t a facelifted one have the underline?

 

[AWD>]

Assume, No underline, No Ludicrous.

It’s part of the deal.

 

[EV-CPO]

Except for all the P90DLs that were produced before the underline was a thing (as I pointed out above). It can always be added later if you really want it. If the trim code says P90DL, it's Ludicrous with or without the underline.

 

[wordless888]

Except for all the P90DLs that were produced before the underline was a thing (as I pointed out above). It can always be added later if you really want it. If the trim code says P90DL, it's Ludicrous with or without the underline.

Do you know when this cutoff was? I would think that a facelift car would always have the line, whereas the 2015 pre-facelift may not. Also, wouldn’t the main computer screen have the underline since software is constantly updated (even if the emblem on back isn’t underlined)? It seems like if you add it via software upgrade, the main computer and software would reflect this. The pics I posted above show no underline on the computer screen where the speedo is.

And I’m no Tesla expert by any means, I’m new to this scene. This just doesn’t make sense to me though based on all things I’ve read in the past. Even the P85Ds that had the ludicrous update have the underline on the computer screen.