I should add what others have said in that it's probably unwise to rive so long without a rest. In an ICE vehicle I would always stop for a coffee or comfort break on that journey. I actually didn't stop the last 2 times I did it in my Model 3 but I feel that was more a "because I can" than a sensible route planning choice. As others have mentioned there is god supercharger coverage on that journey so I just would plan a stop. Closer to the end than the beginning for a more efficient charge speed too. Also I'm not sure if it was just a misreading, because the distance is similar, but I took the M6 toll last time rather than the M6 (ruling out a Hilton park top up) and my expected arrival energy shot up by 6%. I assume it was just a blip because both roads are similar in length and time.
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London to Manchester without stopping? [SR+]
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So many opinions on this thread, yet I don't see from the OP whether he has SR+, LR or P. I'm pretty sure that makes all the difference.
A LR could do it, just, but you'll arrive with nothing and if you are heading to north of the center on Manchester, or leaving from South of the river it's probably going to need you to drive at 60. Given you will pass at least 6 SuperChargers why bother, stop off for 10 mins on the M6 somewhere and it'll be easy.
A LR could do it, just, but you'll arrive with nothing and if you are heading to north of the center on Manchester, or leaving from South of the river it's probably going to need you to drive at 60. Given you will pass at least 6 SuperChargers why bother, stop off for 10 mins on the M6 somewhere and it'll be easy.
Mr H
Active Member
Indeed, why. 200 miles w/o a stop w or w/o a "R3d Bull" to help is asking for trouble.
Why the "allergy" to stopping?
Fair point.
No chance in a SR+, even if I assume the most beneficial start and stop locations (Watford to Altringham) you would need to keep under 60
Making one 7 minute stop on the route will mean you get their 30 mins sooner (including the time for the stop).
can you add waypoints to your journey yet though as the tesla is always hell bent on going the longest fastest route it can find even if you've done 50 miles more to save 5 minutes. I'd much rather go the shorter (generally more rural) route. ABRP also suggests some shorter routes that it was/is impossible to get the tesla to navigate, you have to pick somewhere half way and then add in the next half when you get there.
spooksman
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Nope!
Constant cause of frustration - no waypoints. It doesn't even let you choose the Supercharger you may want, just the one it thinks best for you. Given Elon's current 'attacks' on Apple, the whole 'Tesla knows best' thing is odd...
Tonight, when you are about to leave, put the postcode into the Nav in the car and select "Exclude superchargers" and see what your car predicts (This also stops the car Pre Conditioning for a SuC). I find the car is the most accurate compared to ABRP etc.
Also, when driving long distance, after about 30mins-1hr and if you are driving at a steady/constant 70mph you may notice that what the car predicted gets better with distance (Unless you decide to floor it!).
No premium. Did a trip from Leicester to Bath a few weeks ago and the car seemed to predict the % very close
Started trip with "arrive with 10%" and when i arrived is was at 13% (plus one dog rushed to vets after hitting me - not mine - bruised but not hurt)
You can beat it if you drive slower, e.g. roadworks, stuck behind other drivers. I drive at 73mph according to Autopilot, but I can see from Teslafi my average is generally about 66. You won't easily beat it if you drive faster than it says.
Yes you can get further if you drafted lorries, had a strong tailwind, turned of AC, but in my experience these are marginal gains at best, unlikely to avoid a charge stop, maybe make it a couple on minutes shorter.
@GRiLLA, Is that ABRP route based on your LR? I just did the same on my 2020 refresh and I get this result, just curious
. Like others have said, it’s actually best just to drive how you want to and let the car figure it out. I did the “trying not to stop” scenario and ended up mixing it with the lorries, would have been quicker and less hassle just to drive “normally” and do a quick charge en route.
I've been driving a SR+ for 22 months and that distance is not possible unless you drive at low speeds that are dangerous on a motorway.
I've spoken to a lot of non-EV drivers who insist that they regularly drive such distances without stopping, but it is not a pleasant experience for me, as it means I would have to dehydrate myself to not need the loo - and I'd need to be very alert so as not to sag my concentration, which I find hard without sugars/caffeine/other energy... which makes you need the loo.
Personally, I consider the need to do such a long drive without any charging stops comes from the mindset of never having driven an EV. If you have a Tesla, use the car's in-built nav function to see where you need to stop and how long for. It is superbly accurate. You'll find you only need to stop for as long as it takes to walk to the service station and use the loo.
I've spoken to a lot of non-EV drivers who insist that they regularly drive such distances without stopping, but it is not a pleasant experience for me, as it means I would have to dehydrate myself to not need the loo - and I'd need to be very alert so as not to sag my concentration, which I find hard without sugars/caffeine/other energy... which makes you need the loo.
Personally, I consider the need to do such a long drive without any charging stops comes from the mindset of never having driven an EV. If you have a Tesla, use the car's in-built nav function to see where you need to stop and how long for. It is superbly accurate. You'll find you only need to stop for as long as it takes to walk to the service station and use the loo.
at 20c 73mph indicated with maybe some roadworks reducing your overall average I think it can be doable. honestly wouldn’t even plan - just go and check the energy graph after an hour to see how you’re going. If it looks like you’ll be too low just route to a charger. Or rather than planning charges, just stop at a services you naturally would for a pee or a coffee and see if you can top up there - they may have superchargers or gridserve/electric highway chargers. If they don’t then you can plan later.
Yes, 2019 LR. You have the fancy app using traffic, showing you will take half an hour longer, so an average of 55mph. Mine is not assuming current traffic and so average 66mph. That to me explains the difference.@GRiLLA, Is that ABRP route based on your LR? I just did the same on my 2020 refresh and I get this result, just curious
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My experience.
so I started the trip and was driving max 70mph there were residents works so was I assign ally doing 50mph.
it was very tight and wasn’t worth the risk so I did end up stopping and topping up.
lessons learnt. It’s not worth stressing over it just top up. Also it’s best to top up when the battery is lower as you only need a short stop.
also don’t sit in the car go for a walk and stretch your legs as it charges faster when the car is locked and no one is in it as it doesn’t need to keep the systems operational
so I started the trip and was driving max 70mph there were residents works so was I assign ally doing 50mph.
it was very tight and wasn’t worth the risk so I did end up stopping and topping up.
lessons learnt. It’s not worth stressing over it just top up. Also it’s best to top up when the battery is lower as you only need a short stop.
also don’t sit in the car go for a walk and stretch your legs as it charges faster when the car is locked and no one is in it as it doesn’t need to keep the systems operational
As comparison, for people not familiar with the massive difference between motorway and other general mix driving ... I've required to do a 99 mile journey on a few occasions lately that consistently uses about 38% of my SR+ battery ... which comes out as a 100% range equivalent of 260 miles. They were return trips that had about an hour stop in the middle. The trip included country roads, city driving and about 14 miles of dual carriageway (only a brief opportunity to reach 70mph so no higher speed cruising).
jimbo_hippo
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I think we should all pop back here in November and revel in the discussion. We all have short attention spans these days and we’ve already forgotten winter when we we’re all wondering, like goldfish, where the range went, even thought it was the same about 7 months ago! 
A Manchester to London SR+ thread will seem like a comedy post! Ha!
A Manchester to London SR+ thread will seem like a comedy post! Ha!Similar threads
