Agree. Vger was there in the audience also & was equally put off. I couldn't believe that someone of Lutz's stature was stooping so low. Of course he knew better. And he sounded just like the worst of the stereotypical used car salesman to me. Totally changed my opinion of him that day based on a number of things - but that was the topper.
Bonnie, the insights you present in this thread regarding Lutz are much appreciated.
In an unrelated matter, did you read the private message I sent to you on September 12?