Model 3 "Performance Brake Calipers" just red or different altogether?

[Lucky13]

What are you gaining by using that caliper over the stock one? I don't know much about model s hardware hence the question.

 

[ShaneXman]

The HRE site states that the FF01's are not compatible with the Model 3. How did you get these on? They have no wheels with the 5x114.3 bolt pattern.

Those pictures were taken AT HRE's corporate headquarters, and they put them on...so they most certainly fit. I would just give them a call if you're interested. If I can help at all, let me know. Thanks!


-Shane

 

[ShaneXman]

Yes.

This has been confirmed by fitment test with clearance measurement.

Barrel (Radial) Clearance: ~11mm (7/16")

Spoke (Axial) Clearance: ~6mm (1/4")

We can confirm Model S caliper & rotor (355mm) kit can fit Model 3 stock 18" wheels with a very comfortable clearance, which coincides to our brake kit design practice in relation to rotor & wheel sizes.

What about the Model 3 Performance with Performance Upgrade Package REAR brakes? Do you know if it's been confirmed that the 18's will fit over those? I would LOVE to be able to put the 18's on as a winter setup (to go snowboarding, etc.). Please let me know. Thanks!


-Shane

 

[Warren-RB]

Those pictures were taken AT HRE's corporate headquarters, and they put them on...so they most certainly fit. I would just give them a call if you're interested. If I can help at all, let me know. Thanks!

-Shane

5x114.3 is a very common lug bolt pattern for Japanese as well as American cars. The wheel was a take-off from Model 3 stock 18" (with aero wheel cover removed).

 

[ShaneXman]

5x114.3 is a very common lug bolt pattern for Japanese as well as American cars. The wheel was a take-off from Model 3 stock 18" (with aero wheel cover removed).

Oh, I definitely know that's an 18" Model 3 wheel, but you're fitment is confirmed on the FRONT of the car, but not the rear. For some reason, I recall hearing that the 18"s wouldn't fit a Model 3 Performance with Performance Upgrade Package...because of the rear brakes (for some reason). *shrugs*


-Shane

 

[Warren-RB]

What about the Model 3 Performance with Performance Upgrade Package REAR brakes? Do you know if it's been confirmed that the 18's will fit over those? I would LOVE to be able to put the 18's on as a winter setup (to go snowboarding, etc.). Please let me know. Thanks!

-Shane

This picture shows the standard rear brake (335mm) clearance to the stock 18" wheel barrel, not a lot but it does clear.

As far as I know (with all researches), unlike the front brake, Tesla keeps the same rear brake for all model 3 regardless it's a base model or PUP.

 

[ShaneXman]

This picture shows the standard rear brake (335mm) clearance to the stock 18" wheel barrel, not a lot but it does clear.

As far as I know (with all researches), unlike the front brake, Tesla keeps the same rear brake for all model 3 regardless it's a base model or PUP.

Check it out...

Performance brakes (or not).


-Shane

 

[Warren-RB]

BBK for the rear is unlikely to be offered by Tesla nor by any aftermarket supplier (not impossible but it's quite involved), due to it's incorporated with an electronic parking brake (unlike S which has an auxiliary parking brake).

A more practical upgrade for the rear, in our opinion, would be a light weight two piece rotor kit plus may be brake pads.

 

[Warren-RB]

Check it out...

Performance brakes (or not).


-Shane

I have seen that thread but nothing seems can be concluded about what the "upgraded" rear brake would look like. If someone has a model 3 with upgrade rear brake equipped I am certainly interested to take a look.

According to the statement the caliper is larger, but rotor size is the same. However a brake system is not considered as an "upgrade" unless the rotor is oversized, or it's more for a cosmetic purpose than performance.

 

[ShaneXman]

I have seen that thread but nothing seems can be concluded about what the "upgraded" rear brake would look like. If someone has a model 3 with upgrade rear brake equipped I am certainly interested to take a look.

According to the statement the caliper is larger, but rotor size is the same. However a brake system is not considered as an "upgrade" unless the rotor is oversized, or it's more for a cosmetic purpose than performance.

I just reached out to a fellow Model 3 Performance with Performance Upgrade Package owner to see if he can post up what we need. Hopefully he'll chime in shortly.

But taking into consideration what you said, a different rear caliper could definitely affect whether or not the standard 18" wheel will fit.


-Shane

 

[b0n3z]

Give me a bit guys, still in a Friday meeting. As soon as I'm done - I'll snap a few pics. I haven't read through this entire thread yet, just got a msg from ShaneXman. I wish I had some hockey pucks to lift the car and take off the wheel - but I don't.

 

[b0n3z]

Hope these pictures do (without reading the entire thread & yes I know it needs a wash)

 

[Evoixse]

Hope these pictures do (without reading the entire thread & yes I know it needs a wash)

Hey can you see if the rotor hats are magnetic? I'm really baffled on why they made the rotor hats have those notches all around if not a cheap and failproof means of securing aluminum hat to steel disc?

 

[Warren-RB]

Hope these pictures do (without reading the entire thread & yes I know it needs a wash)

That was fast and thank you.

I think I still stand correct, from the pic I am certain that it has the same exact caliper as non-PUP except with a nicer cover (make it looks like a fixed piston caliper) and red paint.

This fancy cover requires extra overhead which may or may not fit 18" wheels which you can tell from the size of your wheel.

Even if you have 19" wheel, if doesn't mean it will not fit under 18". Since you are in Orange (20 min from our shop), if you can bring your car in we can test fit with 18" wheel.

 

[b0n3z]

Just to make sure we are talking about the exact same thing, I took the direction D pad off my XBOX Elite controller (metal not a magnet) and also a neodymium magnet. I wanted to test both extremes to make sure if it's not magnetized it is indeed metal at least with the strange flat grey coating.

So I could not get the directional D pad to hold to the grey area in the picture below. I tested several areas around. However, the neodymium magnet did hold very well as expected.

-b0n3z

 

[ShaneXman]

I think Even if you have 19" wheel, if doesn't mean it will not fit under 18".

He has the Performance Upgrade Package which includes 20” wheels.


-Shane

 

[Shizzrock]

Just to make sure we are talking about the exact same thing, I took the direction D pad off my XBOX Elite controller (metal not a magnet) and also a neodymium magnet. I wanted to test both extremes to make sure if it's not magnetized it is indeed metal at least with the strange flat grey coating.

So I could not get the directional D pad to hold to the grey area in the picture below. I tested several areas around. However, the neodymium magnet did hold very well as expected.

-b0n3z

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So this means they made a fake two-piece rotor? Why would Tesla say they're lightweight two-piece rotors? If true this is sort of lame.

 

[Warren-RB]

Seems Tesla did a better job than Mercedes in caliper cover.

Picture showing MB's GT rear OE caliper (in red) for standard iron brake (CCM is in gold color). This is a CCB retro fit kit RB offers to convert iron to CCB.

The stock rear is 360x26mm, front 390xx36mm fits under stock 19" wheels.

 

[Powered By Jay]

This is an ONE piece cast iron rotor, not aluminum hat two piece rotor.

The tooling of casting can make wavy finish rotor hat so to create a visual difference from the base model, and perhaps let consumer feel it has "some" better cooling effect for it looks more sporty than a plain hat.

Still looks like it might be a two-piece rotor. It looks like there is a gap where the teeth of the hat slide into slots in the main ring.

 

[b0n3z]

Anyone have jack stands specific for a model 3, a model 3 AWD and in Orange County, CA? We can settle this easy.

(To me, it still looks to be two piece and more like a floating rotor. But ehh - I'm not a mechanic.)

-b0n3z