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Can anyone give me some personal insight on using their Hakka 10's vs 9's? Im debating between the two and I'm not sure which one to get.
[...] I bought a home in Crested Butte that has an incredibly steep driveway. [...] we had snow this past week. [...] my Model 3 slid all the way off the driveway.
[...] I currently have Michelin Cross Climate 2's on my Model 3 and I love them. But I need to put studded tires on.
I'm debating between the Hakka 10 or the 9's.
Can anyone help me analyze which one is better for my situation?
Hey, thanks for that!That's a self-promoting marketing fluff site by Nokian about Nokian. Not particularly informative, or helpful.
Has anyone seen any independent, 3rd party winter tire reviews that include Nokian Hakka R3?
I am not asking out of the blue, as I am actively shopping for two new sets of winter tires, one for my Model 3. And most national chains do not sell Nokia tires, nor do most tire surveys and comparisons include them in their tests.
I did find one comparison test that included both Hakka R3s and Micheline X-Ice (my current set of winters, Blizzak's before that), below.
Hakka R3's did OK, but not all that great:
2021 Studless and Studded Winter Tire Test - Tire reviews and ratings
If you live in a part of the world that sees an extreme winter such as the Northern USA, Canada, and the Northern parts of Europe, you'll know that regular central European winter tires just don't ...www.tire-reviews.com
Critical is a personal decision. Do you like to be able to stop as quickly as possible? Then yes you should have studless snow tires. Seems like a lot of money but if it's the difference between hitting someone and not hitting someone it's worth it in my opinion. Snow tires are leaps and bounds better in winter over all season tires.Guys, sorry in advance as it might be repetitive post but couldn't get exactly what I was looking for . Here's my situation :
Got Tesla Model-3, 2021, do I critically need Winter tires if I am not planning to drive in deep snowy area only in GTA and around ?
I got a quote of 2860 CAD from Tesla service center at Mississauga for 18 Inch Pirelli WINTER SOTTOZERO-3 tires (18 inch). Is it too much ?
What other options I got and if I go with them does it void my Tesla warranty in any ways.
Thanks in advance !
Adi...
Thanks Braumin for your detailed reply ! All valid points , mine is SR+ so 18'' rims for me it seems.Critical is a personal decision. Do you like to be able to stop as quickly as possible? Then yes you should have studless snow tires. Seems like a lot of money but if it's the difference between hitting someone and not hitting someone it's worth it in my opinion. Snow tires are leaps and bounds better in winter over all season tires.
$2860 sounds reasonable if they are on rims which they pretty much have to be for that price, and with the BLUETOOTH TMPS installed. If you have a 2021 you HAVE to get Bluetooth TPMS sensors. The previous sensors do not work. But since your quote is from a Tesla service center then you should be OK there.
I'm also assuming you have a SR+ or LR. If you have a performance I would personally recommend 19" wheels/tires for winter even though some 18" rims will barely fit.
Putting on different tires and rims will not void your warranty in any way.
I just bought a 19" winter set up, rims, tires (Conti Extreme) and ble TPMS, mounted/balanced from Element Wheels (Custom Wheels and Tires - #1 in Aftermarket Rim & Tire Packages). The website configuration will walk you through rims and tires that fit your Tesla. All in I paid $2,700. You certainly have options, my tires are all season not winter but we don't see that much snow in Philly.Thanks Braumin for your detailed reply ! All valid points , mine is SR+ so 18'' rims for me it seems.
Other than what Tesla offers what other options I can consider.
Will wait to hear from others before taking the final call...
Cheers !
Adi..
This is really helpful to know. Ottawa Ontario has some similar winter weather and I keep wondering about getting a winter tire set for my new 2022 M3LR. Was thinking of holding off to try the all seasons and see. I get the car next week. I won't be driving in a big storm anyway.I have a 2020 M3LR. I bought it last September. We had a fairly snowy winter, and I never once felt that the all weather Continental tires that came with it were inadequate on snowy roads. I live in a rural, hilly area: lots of curvy, fairly narrow roads. The only thing I did when driving on snowy roads was to reduce the regenerative braking. I even took the car out in the middle of a 12 inch snow fall on some of the hilliest, curviest roads I know. No problems at all. Now, if the roads are ice covered, my all weather tires and any unstudded winter tires will be pretty much useless unless you have chains.
I just went through the Tesla pre owner talk and the rep Gad said he's been driving Teslas for 10 years and he really likes the Nokians. Perhaps we can consider that an independent 3rd party review?That's a self-promoting marketing fluff site by Nokian about Nokian. Not particularly informative, or helpful.
Has anyone seen any independent, 3rd party winter tire reviews that include Nokian Hakka R3?
I am not asking out of the blue, as I am actively shopping for two new sets of winter tires, one for my Model 3. And most national chains do not sell Nokia tires, nor do most tire surveys and comparisons include them in their tests.
I did find one comparison test that included both Hakka R3s and Micheline X-Ice (my current set of winters, Blizzak's before that), below.
Hakka R3's did OK, but not all that great:
2021 Studless and Studded Winter Tire Test - Tire reviews and ratings
If you live in a part of the world that sees an extreme winter such as the Northern USA, Canada, and the Northern parts of Europe, you'll know that regular central European winter tires just don't ...www.tire-reviews.com
Sorry, but not even close!I just went through the Tesla pre owner talk and the rep Gad said he's been driving Teslas for 10 years and he really likes the Nokians. Perhaps we can consider that an independent 3rd party review?
I'm also in NE Ohio and here looking for winter tires for my M3P. These tires are awful in the winter- as in, dangerous to drive at all. Seems there are very limited winter options for the low profile rear tires. I may have to consider getting 19 inch rims to find more suitable tires.Currently in an 18 LR in NE Ohio and have not had any issues with the stock all seasons. However, I am considering upgrading to a 21 performance (given the used market/significant offers I've gotten).
2 questions: 1) does everyone definitely recommend a winter set given the performance summer tires and 2) as far as experience with tirerack, do they ship the sets right to you, ready to go and mount yourself?
Definitely preferable to go smaller diameter wheel and get some more sidewall on your tire.I'm also in NE Ohio and here looking for winter tires for my M3P. These tires are awful in the winter- as in, dangerous to drive at all. Seems there are very limited winter options for the low profile rear tires. I may have to consider getting 19 inch rims to find more suitable tires.
Package one out of Tire Rack and It will tell you what rim diameter will work. On my wife's Y performance (21" OEM) I went with 19" and HakkaHi all, I live in the CO Mountains and we have run Nokian Hakka 9 or 10s on all vehicles for years. We recently got a model 3 performance, and I am starting to think about winter tire / wheel packages. Pretty sure I want to stick with the Hakka 10s, and would love to go with a smaller rim than the 20s that come stock. Does anyone know if I can get an 18 on the 3P or do I need to go with a 19?
There are many 18" wheels that fit the M3P. I think a couple were mentioned in this thread, and I know others are mentioned elsewhere on the forum. Off the top of my head, I know that Tsportsline makes some. Even the stock Tesla 18" wheels can be made to fit if you're willing to do a little grinding on your brake calipers; that's not something I would do however.Hi all, I live in the CO Mountains and we have run Nokian Hakka 9 or 10s on all vehicles for years. We recently got a model 3 performance, and I am starting to think about winter tire / wheel packages. Pretty sure I want to stick with the Hakka 10s, and would love to go with a smaller rim than the 20s that come stock. Does anyone know if I can get an 18 on the 3P or do I need to go with a 19?