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That sounds like a really nice garage!! One day... :wink:I have had hard- and soft- top convertibles, never going back to soft-top...
A 85+kwh model X , and a hard-top 4-seat convertible gen III (smaller/cheaper) with a 150+ mile range would be my ideal 'fleet'. *sigh
Anyone knows of a 4-door hard top convertible?
How about a mix between glass and hard: the glass front part could slide into the hard rear segment before then folding into the trunk... any ideas?
I found no 4 doors when I looked a couple years ago. But VW EOS does have an option of a Sunroof inside the folding top so you can have both.
The idea of a mixed hard-glass front was only to simplify the folding mechanism for the roof. In that case, only the glass guiding sides would need to fold vs the whole forward section of the roof... or perhaps it would make sense to leave the side arches for structural integrity, and make the all glass roof retract underneath the tunk's glass...
Yep, a la targa... though I kinda like the idea of an arch-less 4-door cabrio...A la the Porsche 911 Targa? I was actually thinking about putting a convertible on 4 doors this morning. You have to keep the whole B pillar (to close and seal the doors properly). And your canopy has to be significantly thinner than your vehicle, so that it can fold up inside the trunk. I don't really see getting away from fixed door arches without a lot of compromise. But a Porsche 991 style Targa top I could easily see.
The other obvious problem with leveraging the Model S as a convertible is the hatchback. The whole trunk section would have to be reworked, not to mention the canopy and windshield. And adding more rigidity in the windscreen framework could easily take away even more of the limited head room. Not to mention the shear size of the Model S canopy.
What do you think with this version ?
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I was thinking that using some small rear hinged car doors could allow to have a 4 doors cabriolet. For example a volkswagen EOS, but you add a rear hinged door (like the RX8) between the front door and the rear wheel.
I agree that keeping the door frames (the arches going from A to C) would take away much of the convertibleness...You still run the problem of having to put in a B pillar. Something to seal the back edge of the front window, and the front edge of the rear window. Having framed doors on a convertible takes away much of the convertibleness.
I agree that keeping the door frames (the arches going from A to C) would take away much of the convertibleness...
How would it be to leave the Bs in with corresponding cross arch? Would provide for rigidity and roll-cage functionality... but can that look nice too? We need djromain drawings ;-)
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I also found this rendition of the concept I/we are after for an Audi A7... but is it doable like that? Would we need to sacrifise the hatch-back ? Does it matter?
So many questions...
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You're absolutely right! I had not realises and thought BMs was a 2 piece roof... nope, it's 3...
But adding the rear doors, then they other hinge on a shortened B pillar or in the C and open like in the RX8 above... right?