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Model X Plaid : Track Package and CCBs
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After having my X plaid for 2 months now I can say, who would track this thing? I just can't envision it, it's not that kind of vehicle IMHO.
Leifmb
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I'd like to HAVE THE ABILITY TO do "track like" things with it.
EightBitWhit
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Curious as to what your take is on why you wouldn't consider tracking it?
I personally wouldn't track mine either, but I would want the better brakes and the software for thermal management...basically anything that makes the overall experience of ownership better for a vehicle that is capable of such.
Spirited driving and being anble to better accommodate unforeseen emergency issues would quickly pay for the capabilities the track pack allows for, IMHO.
I'd love to have "Snowy Parking Lot Donut" mode... But yea, it feels like a heavy, tall, beast that's more suited for drag racing if any performance racing was desired. Then again, as I mentioned donut mode... There are always multiple uses for being able to control how much power goes where.
EightBitWhit
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It's as much want as it is need. My wife's 2022 MYP has better (more confidence inspiring, better pedal feel) brakes on it than my MXP does - and I can confidently say that having logged ample seat time in both vehicles.
Any time that I find myself needing to get into the brake pedal, I always compare the experience to our MYP and I always come away wanting the MXP to be better.
I'd rather have the better brakes and never truly need them than ride around in a vehicle that can easily overpower its own (as it is configured stock at this time).
Just to be clear, brake pedal feel has very little correlation with brake performance, and going carbon ceramic will not appreciably reduce your braking distance. It will improve fade resistance, which isn’t super relevant on the street.
"Easily overpower"
What were the conditions where you found that you "easily" overpowered your brakes?
How many times have you triggered the conservative brake temp warning light?
And how often after the warning light did you actually experience any brake fade? And if so, what race track were you on?
EightBitWhit
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I don't feel like I ever have overpowered the brakes (per your questions above) and as such I've not seen the warning light and I wasnt on any track.
But in comparing my two Teslas, side-by-side, the braking feel on the X is nowhere near as good as the Y Perf - that I can say 100% due to experience. The X feels "underserved" as the Y will clamp right down and the brakes haul the car to a stop in a very confident manner. The X doesn't feel the same way, so any upgrade to the braking configuration will be welcome.
I full-well realize what you're getting at and I'm not disagreeing with any of it - but I know what I feel in both the cars and the X needs (deserves) better than what it has. Is that "better" going to be offered by Tesla? That's what I thought we were here to discuss. Nothing against the 3rd-party options, but if I'm going to spend money, I'd rather it be the upgraded OEM solution with the software integration.
It is a 6000 pound family hauler- 1000hp or not- it will not stop fast / especially more than once in quick succession. Said that- brakes on the MXP are adequate. No- it will not stop like a track car or even like a plebeian modern car. For that you need $20k in bigger (carbon) rotors, 8 piston calipers and matched pads, brake line cooler and proper fluid in the front. Rear is irrelevant. But again- 6000 pounds and quick braking regardless of the braking setup is an oxymoron.
One time emergency braking in the MXP is about the best you can expect. Proven by braking tests against other sporty SUVs that are about 500 pounds lighter.
Lastly- the MXP is undertired both front and back- a full on panic stop on dry surface will activate (just barely) the ABS which means that unless you run wider fronts/ slicks in dry weather the braking is tire and not brake system limited so improving the brakes will not result in shorter braking distance- just better feel and repeatability. But see my first sentence about the family hauler.
One time emergency braking in the MXP is about the best you can expect. Proven by braking tests against other sporty SUVs that are about 500 pounds lighter.
Lastly- the MXP is undertired both front and back- a full on panic stop on dry surface will activate (just barely) the ABS which means that unless you run wider fronts/ slicks in dry weather the braking is tire and not brake system limited so improving the brakes will not result in shorter braking distance- just better feel and repeatability. But see my first sentence about the family hauler.
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