FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
I was a supporter until I read this post.
It's complete nonsense to not post the offset so an educated buyer can make an informed decision on a set of track wheels.
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It's complete nonsense to not post the offset so an educated buyer can make an informed decision on a set of track wheels.
MarcG
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Agreed, why not post a few different combinations of wheel size/offset/tire size for different configuration goals?
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
I wouldn’t say it’s nonsense, they have a business to protect. I respect that. Although I’m sure the value is there, I don’t necessarily want to spend $6k on a set of wheels. If they told me the perfect offset for the 20x10 20x11 I could just order a set of Stance FS07 wheels from getyourwheels. TSportline lists the offsets but it’s hard to know what they consider a proper offset. The Plaid I saw with arachnids looked like it could take at least 1/2” wider wheel assuming the same inside clearance. So guess away with your own research or pay the guys who have done the work.
MarcG
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Research isn’t that hard, using sites like https://www.willtheyfit.com which gives you a nice visual comparison.
Of course, it’s better to have real-life examples, but it’s a good start.
We got many supports from Signature customers because we are the only few wheel companies to take the car, measured it, built and fit various sizes of wheel/offset combo on there to see what fits and what doesn't. You will not find a single Signature owner that's unhappy about their fitment, even if it's just with the stock offset, because we build wheels fitment based on their preference, not ours. You are not limited to one single fitment. There's tuck / flush with no poke / flush with slight poke / aggressive flush and more on types fitment you could get. We let the customer decide what kind of look they want and how it will look on their car.
Just like MPP, they reserved the spring rate on their suspension. They put a lot of hard work into it, and they deserve to keep those spec to themselves. In the end, the result is far more important than the actual spec.
We can't make every non-Signature customer happy with the way we do and protect our business, but I'm sure we can make every Signature customer happy
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The track spec is published and nothing to hide there. It's 20x10 ET40 & 20x11 ET40. It fits but the fitment could be better.
There's no guessing game with us. We show the fitment example and you know exactly what you can expect. Offset almost means nothing if you can't visuallize the real world fitment.
If you want something spot on and not have to worry about poor fitment, just have us help you out.
Absolutely hilarious. Should take your business elsewheres then since you’re planning to anyways. The average customer doesn’t care for offset numbers…they only care if they fit. You aren’t the bagged or stance type to know every millimeter or needing every millimeter. Tons of happy signature wheel customers and their fitment is spot on. Everyone wants “free” information despite Signatures effort in R&D, wheel production, test fitting wheel & tire.
Your baseline wheel and offset are your oem ones. Do the work and figure it out from there or have someone that understands suspension drop, wheels, camber, and tire stretch
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
This one the rear is flush but the front seems a bit more tucked. Agree?
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
On my Model 3, the fenders are off center to the running gear yielding a difference about 5mm offset left to right. Are you seeing that on the S?
MFrunkerOG
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At least from this angle, sure looks like that. I want mine exactly like this
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
I’m guessing 32-36 would be better….. but guessing sucks. You’ll probably end up with my business, lol.
I consider this fitment as aggresssive poke.
Slight poke/Aggressive flush would be like below:
That’s similar to my setup which I don’t think it’s wheel poke but “tire sidewall” poke. If you want more room they can tailor the offset in 1mm increments.
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
Rolling shot ok? I went with a very slight aggressive spec to have a certain fitment for these wheels. Either way…Jamie calculates and does a bespoke fitment based on the tire you want to run. Just tell him what you’re looking for and examples and trust me you’ll be happy. When the S comes in I’ll do a similar spec.
jleonk
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Awesome. Can you please elaborate on "maximum tire protection" and show what the offset looks like on this install? I think I'm headed in this direction for dedicated winters on my Plaid.
Thanks. That's a ton of side wall. What size are those tires? The wheels kind of look small for the car, I wonder if is because of the tires?
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