Is there any consensus on wheel size effecting overall straight-line performance? You would think the smaller/lighter wheels would make a measurable impact on 0-60 AND 1/4mi times but multiple YT videos show virtually no difference. Jay Lenos 1/4 mi record was on 21s...that 9.08 1/4 run from YT was also on 21s. Do smaller/lighter wheels help with 0-60 but hinder 1/4 times?
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We genuinely believe that we can get better timing with the lighter wheel. However, none of the "Signature wheel on plaid" videos you see are running the OEM wheel size and tire setup. They all run wider and with different diameter tire, which possibly make the gearing to be off. It's not really an apple to apple comparison overall. Additionally, there's many variables when it comes to drag race... wind, weather, track condition, margin of error etc.
We have multiple owners on our 20” sv104 setup that have gone 1.99 or faster 0-60 but 1/4mi trap speed is slower with our setup and we are still trying to find out why but we believe this has to do with Tesla’s algorithm and not just physics.
The FIRST 9.08 Plaid has had 400lbs removed from the interior. But we have an owner who has got similar setup coming soon. (Stipped interior + 19/18" wheel setup)
We have multiple owners on our 20” sv104 setup that have gone 1.99 or faster 0-60 but 1/4mi trap speed is slower with our setup and we are still trying to find out why but we believe this has to do with Tesla’s algorithm and not just physics.
The FIRST 9.08 Plaid has had 400lbs removed from the interior. But we have an owner who has got similar setup coming soon. (Stipped interior + 19/18" wheel setup)
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Monoblck Series SV104
-Brushed Bronze Tinted
-20x10 (285/35/21) Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
-20x11 (305/35/21) Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
- Secret-EV Super Street Titanium Lug nut (40MM) 31.6gram vs OEM (25MM) 44 gram
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-Brushed Bronze Tinted
-20x10 (285/35/21) Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
-20x11 (305/35/21) Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
- Secret-EV Super Street Titanium Lug nut (40MM) 31.6gram vs OEM (25MM) 44 gram
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For a while the only plaids were 21s. So all the fastest (and slowest) plaid videos were 21s.
Tesla plaid channel has the closest thing to a well controlled comparison, but still with different cars. He showed that the 19s were quicker. See the descriptions in his YouTube videos.
Going smaller and thus lighter, all else equal, should always be faster
To slow down formula 1 cars, they made the wheels bigger. 13 inch to 18 inch
F1 cars will be 'two seconds slower' with 18-inch tyres | PlanetF1
Mercedes technical director James Allison predicts that the 18-inch tyres coming for 2022 will slow cars down by two seconds per lap.
www.planetf1.com
For a while the only plaids were 21s. So all the fastest (and slowest) plaid videos were 21s.
Tesla plaid channel has the closest thing to a well controlled comparison, but still with different cars. He showed that the 19s were quicker. See the descriptions in his YouTube videos.
Going smaller and thus lighter, all else equal, should always be faster
To slow down formula 1 cars, they made the wheels bigger. 13 inch to 18 inch
F1 cars will be 'two seconds slower' with 18-inch tyres | PlanetF1
Mercedes technical director James Allison predicts that the 18-inch tyres coming for 2022 will slow cars down by two seconds per lap.
The Tesla plaid channel did mention that he thinks the OEM 19s are good for a tenth in the quarter over the OEM 21s. However, when has races his buddy with the Plaid on 21s while he was on 19s the results are back and forth with no consistent winner - it seems to depend much more on who gets the tree or who has higher SoC.
It appears the difference in straight-line performance between 19, 20, 21 seems to be pretty negligible in the Plaid...not zero...but not significant like it can be in other vehicles. My decision to go with 20s has more to do with maintaining ride comfort with the larger sidewalls than performance at this point.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
For a while the only plaids were 21s. So all the fastest (and slowest) plaid videos were 21s. Tesla plaid channel has the closest thing to a well controlled comparison, but still with different cars. He showed that the 19s were quicker. See the descriptions in his YouTube videos.
Going smaller and thus lighter, all else equal, should always be faster
To slow down formula 1 cars, they made the wheels bigger. 13 inch to 18 inch
F1 cars will be 'two seconds slower' with 18-inch tyres | PlanetF1
Mercedes technical director James Allison predicts that the 18-inch tyres coming for 2022 will slow cars down by two seconds per lap.
Good summary... thanks for sharing.
"As part of the new regulations which will now come in to F1 from 2022, cars will race with 18-inch tyres produced by Pirelli. But Allison expects them to make the cars lap up to two seconds slower. “All things being equal, the bigger rims, low-profile rubber is always going to be a worse tyre than the sort of tyres that we have on our racing car today,” he said on the F1 Nation podcast. “That sort of balloon-type tyre that you see on our cars today and have seen on racing cars for decades is a really good solution for going quickly.
“It allows the tyre to transmit the forces to the road really effectively. It’s light, it acts as a good suspending element so it gives the driver good ride quality, allows the forces to be taken at quite low inflation pressures, which means you get more grip, etc. “So from a lap time point of view the way we currently do it is definitely the right way. And the new tyres are going to be heavier, lower grip and worse for ride, all other things being equal. “They’re going to slow the cars down by somewhere between a second and two seconds, something like that.
It was not back with no consistent winner. The 19s were consistently faster. Read the guys own YouTube description in the video and his comments.
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Awesome! This is the look I was wanting. Will order some of those in the spring for my summer setup!
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
There’s a lot more are play in these statements for F1 cars and lap times than rotational mass and acceleration.
Fastest 1/8 run with stock interior on 20” SV104
5.97 @124.4mph
5.97 @124.4mph
Just got my 21” SV104 in triple black tint mounted with PS4S tires. I’ll get better pics taken with my Sony later, and replace these phone pics. The weight came out nearly identical to the factory 19”s without the aero caps on them. Rears were 56.3 lbs and fronts were 52 lbs. So this yields .3 lbs heavier in back and identical weight in front. Stock 19” are about 3 lbs heavier when caps are factored in. This is an astounding result with a much larger rim/tire package weighing the same.
That's really quick. Do they had any mods other than the wheels? That 60' is killer. I took my car yesterday to the 1/8th with the stock 19"s with no launch mode or drag mode I run 6.1s I think I was at 380 miles of range.
Monoblck Series SV104
-Brushed Titanium
-21x9.5 (265/35/21)
-21x10.5 (295/30/21)
- OEM tire compatible
-OEM TPMS compatible
Plaid - SV104 - 21" Brushed Titanium by Jamie Sig, 
Plaid - SV104 - 21" Brushed Titanium by Jamie Sig, 
Plaid - SV104 - 21" Brushed Titanium by Jamie Sig, 
Plaid - SV104 - 21" Brushed Titanium by Jamie Sig, 
Plaid - SV104 - 21" Brushed Titanium by Jamie Sig,
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SV104
Brushed Black Triple Tinted
Vintage Center Cap
Rear Friction Lock
20x10 ET40 21.50lb (285/35/20)
20x11 ET40 22.12lb (305/30/20 or 305/35/20)
Matching Tesla Track Package Spec
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SV104
Brushed Black Triple Tinted
Vintage Center Cap
Rear Friction Lock
20x10 ET40 21.50lb (285/35/20)
20x11 ET40 22.12lb (305/30/20 or 305/35/20)
Matching Tesla Track Package Spec
First come first serve.
Both below are 22" on the Plaid.
Vendor - Official Signature Wheel Gallery | Model S Plaid & Performance.
Not the best photo. But 20x10.5 with 285/35/20 square. (conservative spec) We also did an aggressvie square setup, I will send you more info. 20's look perfect. I love how there is enough tire profile. The square setup will be great for tire rotation too.
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Vendor - Official Signature Wheel Gallery | Model S Plaid & Performance.
After multiple more test fitting… We found another way to fit even wider rear that we thought it couldn’t fit. #nevergiveup No rubbing and No modification with very minimal poke! ( Flush in my perspective 335/35/20 on the rear for the Plaid with very specific width & offset. 🤫 IMO you want...
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