Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
Anyone try the new T0 Goodyear Eagle Sport Allseason that are now shipping on the S?
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The elect badge - and noise foamShopping 20” tires for my SV104s as well. What made you go with the Merc spec tires vs the McLaren’s.
Here’s the European sticker (this is the rears, front is identical) for these tires. Only time will tell if they are the really the lowest rolling resistance so far grip and handling is quite good!Rgr that. The Mac tires have noise cancelling but apparently are not elect. Will have to decide soon for myself.
By far the biggest “difference” in OEM tires for mass-produced cars is when a manufacturer comes and says “hey can you make this tire for me with 20% less tread depth for 20% less money?”Not new sizes. Same size, same brand, same model and they're built differently.
By far the biggest “difference” in OEM tires for mass-produced cars is when a manufacturer comes and says “hey can you make this tire for me with 20% less tread depth for 20% less money?”
That’s the difference in your examples upthread. It’s why one tire is lighter - you’re literally buying less usable rubber.
Plus maybe some other window dressing junk like interior foam. Suggesting the same tires with different OEM specs are dramatically different from a performance or construction perspective is nonsense.
It’s 90+% corner-cutting cost savings.
This video shows the differences of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S regular edition vs the one specifically modified for the BMW M3/4. Real world handling differences and the actual specific differences are discussed.By far the biggest “difference” in OEM tires for mass-produced cars is when a manufacturer comes and says “hey can you make this tire for me with 20% less tread depth for 20% less money?”
That’s the difference in your examples upthread. It’s why one tire is lighter - you’re literally buying less usable rubber.
Plus maybe some other window dressing junk like interior foam. Suggesting the same tires with different OEM specs are dramatically different from a performance or construction perspective is nonsense.
It’s 90+% corner-cutting cost savings.
By far the biggest “difference” in OEM tires for mass-produced cars …
If you think Tesla is more similar to McLaren than Kia on the spectrum of “things OEMs want from tire manufacturers” please send me a DM as I’ve got some amazing beachfront property in Arizona that I think we should be discussing.Yes, that's the same thing companies like Ferrari and McLaren do for their oem spec tire.
Lake Havasu has some amazing beachfront property in AZ. Are you asking for inflated, or realistic pricing? We go there a few times a year.If you think Tesla is more similar to McLaren than Kia on the spectrum of “things OEMs want from tire manufacturers” please send me a DM as I’ve got some amazing beachfront property in Arizona that I think we should be discussing.
I think they specifically had to accommodate 1050 ft-lbs of torque that immediately occurs at 1 rpm. So that is immensely closer to exotic cars than KIAs.If you think Tesla is more similar to McLaren than Kia on the spectrum of “things OEMs want from tire manufacturers” please send me a DM as I’ve got some amazing beachfront property in Arizona that I think we should be discussing.
Simple screenshot from the video shows the compound variations alone are significantly different. Not sure why he debating the topic.I think they specifically had to accommodate 1050 ft-lbs of torque that immediately occurs at 1 rpm. So that is immensely closer to exotic cars than KIAs.
amenSimple screenshot from the video shows the compound variations alone are significantly different. Not sure why he debating the topic.
* Also making a note that BMW is closer to Kia than to McLaren
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The 20” Pirelli Mercedes AMG oem PZ4 went on today. Elect badge and foam inside!
Let’s see how they do!
Noise (lack thereof) is good! Much much quieter than the non foam Michelins I hadI like this set-up. Please do a more in-depth review on efficiency and noise. Pretty sure performance will be spot on.
with a plaid do you actually pay attention to the Wh/mi thing though? Because a single 4 second romp negates 2 hours of driving like a normal person.Noise (lack thereof) is good! Much much quieter than the non foam Michelins I had
Efficiency I’ll measure properly after a few hundred miles or so - I’m already seeing signs that it’s about 20wh/mile less than the Michelin PSAS 4 I had on my other 20” set
The Plaid exists to convert electrons into joy and occasionally terror.with a plaid do you actually pay attention to the Wh/mi thing though? Because a single 4 second romp negates 2 hours of driving like a normal person.
Well yes! I have romp days and I have normal days , and the two shall never meet!with a plaid do you actually pay attention to the Wh/mi thing though? Because a single 4 second romp negates 2 hours of driving like a normal person.