What would you be driving if Tesla wasn’t around and would you be happier?
There should be limits to the amount of bitching we throw at Tesla.
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Owners with No AP - Thoughts/Plans/Speculation on What Happens Next
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What would you be driving if Tesla wasn’t around and would you be happier?
There should be limits to the amount of bitching we throw at Tesla.
I'm in Vancouver Canada.
Ordered my car March 2nd LR RWD Blue/White, AP. Took delivery March 30th. Now I'm hearing people on their AP trial are being offered AP for $2500. Thats a $1500 kick in the sack for me.
Ordered my car March 2nd LR RWD Blue/White, AP. Took delivery March 30th. Now I'm hearing people on their AP trial are being offered AP for $2500. Thats a $1500 kick in the sack for me.
You haven't been paying attention to other companies like the press has to Tesla. Every single deal from conventional dealers is like that: "I'll through in a ( you name it ) to close the deal ". Tesla Model 3 prices after accounting for the changes in tax credit have generally trended down. Making AP standard for a $2K price increase is the same as a package change. You should compare Teslas changes to every single negotiation detail change of every single dealer sale. The difference is Tesla's "negotiations" are online for all to see.
willow_hiller
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It was $2,500 USD yesterday, this morning it's been increased to $3,000 USD.
Garlan Garner
Banned
First of all. They aren't giving EAP away....however they are slick in their way of dropping the price of EAP. The price of each MODEL 3 is going up by the exact price of EAP. Sneaky for some, but totally obvious to me. I suppose they did this so that those who purchased EAP at a price $1K more than what they are forcing people to buy it won't see the price decrease or at least make it as least obvious as possible.
Leafdriver333
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Garlan Garner
Banned
I believe I understand what Elon may be thinking.
This is what I believe might be Elons priority list.
1. Tesla
2. Future Customers
3. Tesla
4. Competition
5. Tesla
6. Current owners
7. Tesla.
It all adds up to what I see Tesla doing concerning their pricing of features as well as the Model 3 itself.
Tesla wants to display ( show off ) their features as much as possible to draw new customers. That's what I would like to do if I was in Tesla's shoes.
Tesla will sell cars based on what non-owners see.
Lately I have been running into a TON of people at SuperChargers that have no clue as to what a TESLA is. Then when I show them something like summon......they are shocked. That's a lot to take in...especially for someone who doesn't even know what a Tesla is.
So...how does a car company with no advertising and now only a few stores ( closed on the weekends ) sell their cars?
Answer? Current owners and the features they have to show off.
Its like Tesla is saying....hey...give every new customer as many features as we can....and let our new customers show them off. Current owners and the price they paid for the features are not as high of a priority on the list as "new customers" , however we should find a way to hide the price decrease in a sneaky way.
This is what I believe might be Elons priority list.
1. Tesla
2. Future Customers
3. Tesla
4. Competition
5. Tesla
6. Current owners
7. Tesla.
It all adds up to what I see Tesla doing concerning their pricing of features as well as the Model 3 itself.
Tesla wants to display ( show off ) their features as much as possible to draw new customers. That's what I would like to do if I was in Tesla's shoes.
Tesla will sell cars based on what non-owners see.
Lately I have been running into a TON of people at SuperChargers that have no clue as to what a TESLA is. Then when I show them something like summon......they are shocked. That's a lot to take in...especially for someone who doesn't even know what a Tesla is.
So...how does a car company with no advertising and now only a few stores ( closed on the weekends ) sell their cars?
Answer? Current owners and the features they have to show off.
Its like Tesla is saying....hey...give every new customer as many features as we can....and let our new customers show them off. Current owners and the price they paid for the features are not as high of a priority on the list as "new customers" , however we should find a way to hide the price decrease in a sneaky way.
Garlan Garner
Banned
Garlan Garner
Banned
Giving back? Who is a little person?
When did the little people give him something - in the first place?
Leafdriver333
Somewhat Active Member
That's why I don't say it.
Where did he earn the money?
World.
He is giving back to the world.
Specifically, to the little people in this case.
Garlan Garner
Banned
I don't' think he is giving anyone anything.
He provides a car....and his customers provide the money. That's an exchange in my book.
Garlan Garner
Banned
So....now he is giving Autopilot away for free!!!!
That should set well with those who paid $3k or $4k or $5k for it.<-----------medium sarcasm
It makes me feel fabulous. <----------extreme sarcasm
You can count me in the camp that Tesla ran a train on.
You are welcome for Q3 Elon!
Garlan Garner
Banned
You can count me in the camp that Tesla ran a train on.
You are welcome for Q3 Elon!
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Indeed - I'm in the $8k camp as well. My receipt is exactly the same as yours.
FSD is going to be free next. We haven't even used that feature yet.....
I wonder if FSD owners will really get HW3 ( or whatever they call it now ) for free.....or will EVERYONE get HW3 for free.
It makes absolutely no sense to install HW2 in any new cars if HW3 is available now.
We should start a new club - YGS club. ( you got screed ) LOL.
Still waiting on my line waiter gift? I wonder if that's in the mail yet.
Has anyone seen my free spoiler anywhere?
Isn't this exactly what they're doing for NEW customers?
They took the basic parts of EAP, and put them into a lower cost packaged simply called AP. Where they initially tried to sell it for $3K, and then within a couple months decided to simply include it in the price of the car. So it's essentially a $40K car that has TACC, and Lane-steering. A much better lane steering-system then practically all the other $40K+ cars.
I completely agree with you in that TACC is a safety feature, and I'm glad that it's being included now.
But, they're not getting it for free. It raised the price of the vehicle by $2K so why can't you pony up the $2K for it instead of asking for it for free?
You had a chance last month to get it for $2K, but you didn't take it.
You had a chance to get it for $2.5K, but you didn't take it.
Now you'd have to pay $3K.
Personally I think they should just stop changing things, and make it $2K for existing owners who don't already have the package. Doing constant changes gives people the impression that if they wait they can jump on a better deal.
Or they could make it go down in price as a function of how old the vehicle was since that's exactly what would happen had the customer bought the package with the car.
You can count me in the camp that Tesla ran a train on.
You are welcome for Q3 Elon!
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I don't see the disclosure that you got the $5K refund check or the acknowledgement that you benefited from the $7.5K tax credit.
Garlan Garner
Banned
The tax credit isn't from Tesla. Its from the Govt.
The Govt set the parameters on that.
How is that relevant?
The price changes were in response to the tax credits expiring.
Having the old prices wasn't sustainable so I question the logic I used when buying the car at the price I did. I thought the price would go up because the tax credit was going to expire. That's why I was one of many who wanted to get it before 2019.
Oops. I didn't realize Tesla would lower the price to compensate for most of the expiration of the tax credit.
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