Paid FSD but HW 2.5 onboard!

[Jeffoun]

took delivery of my P3D+ RHD on aug 7. I paid for FSD buying (maybe foolishly) the full tesla story

However doing the test :

I found I am on 264 codec and therefore HW2.5 and not 3.0

I know tesla has promised free hardware upgrade to FSD clients but I can only imagine it will be only in long while when they fully release FSD

Meanwhile I am somewhat frustrated as I have read reviews that HW3 is not only future proof, it is also superior in current autopilot.

Interested to know outcome of the test on other RHD delivered on last and next few batches.

Wondering if any point to raise strong disapointment and if anyway to force tesla to upgrade my chip given I am one of the few “believer” (...read “sucker”) who paid 6k for sthg my car is not even equipped to do when law permits...

 

[ivangr]

i don’t think the codec check is reliable anymore

FYI July 2019 Build SR+ = HW2.5

 

[tambam]

By the time there is any appreciable difference between HW 2.5 and HW 3.0 then we'll get upgraded.

 

[Jeffoun]

i don’t think the codec check is reliable anymore

FYI July 2019 Build SR+ = HW2.5

Very interesting... so codec not at all anymore a good indicator. Everyone should be on 264 since last update.

I ll investigate further...or not at all...

Thx ivan

 

[Rooster6655]

i don’t think the codec check is reliable anymore

FYI July 2019 Build SR+ = HW2.5

Agree I wouldn't just take any youtube video as fact anymore as most are just interested in trying to get views by getting any attention possible rather than actual facts.

If you got it delivered in August its highly likely to be the latest hardware in fact I don't even think any RHD will be the older hardware at least from July

 

[NorfolkMustard]

I’m pretty sure all RHD M3s can only be HW3.
There was too much time between “all cars being produced now have HW3” and the first deliveries of RHD

 

[WannabeOwner]

TeslaFi indicates HW2.5 / 3 ... no idea if its method is reliable though??

A referral code will get you a months free trial, instead of 2 weeks

 

[drewpost]

I have h264 on my usb stick but I know it’s hardware 3 on mine as it’s having to be replaced!

 

[NorfolkMustard]

TeslaFi indicates HW2.5 / 3 ... no idea if its method is reliable though??

Should be, it uses the optioncodes returned by the car. Assuming those have been decoded accurately.

Option Codes

 

[james_power]

See my post on the main model 3 production forum here

FSD computer HW3 or HW2.5 tracking sheet

 

[Jeffoun]

I have checked my raw data on Teslafi and remote S and my car returns APH3

I think this is HW 2.5 as HW 3 is supposed to be APH4

Given I paid for FSD option I can’t help but being disappointed... even if hardware not yet usable.

 

[ivangr]

they’ll upgrade it

https://electrek.co/2019/03/29/tesla-full-self-driving-computer-retrofit-elon-musk/

 

[Rooster6655]

h264 is a compression standard, hardware 3 could use this h264 as well so its not a way to judge your hardware version. Its also been made clear they will update your hard if needed if you have purchased FSD

 

[KennethS]

I have checked my raw data on Teslafi and remote S and my car returns APH3

I think this is HW 2.5 as HW 3 is supposed to be APH4

Given I paid for FSD option I can’t help but being disappointed... even if hardware not yet usable.

If I am looking in the correct place, Teslafi is showing APH3 on mine as well. Given the supposed extra processing power in HW3, I will be disappointed if it turns out we have HW 2.5. Even though it may not yet be (fully) utilised by current firmware, having paid for FSD I was lead to believe I would receive HW 3, and not a promise to install it later if needed. Putting aside the hassle of a SC visit that would entail.

 

[MrBadger]

What is the vin of these cars?

I have checked my raw data on Teslafi and remote S and my car returns APH3

I think this is HW 2.5 as HW 3 is supposed to be APH4

Given I paid for FSD option I can’t help but being disappointed... even if hardware not yet usable.

If I am looking in the correct place, Teslafi is showing APH3 on mine as well. Given the supposed extra processing power in HW3, I will be disappointed if it turns out we have HW 2.5. Even though it may not yet be (fully) utilised by current firmware, having paid for FSD I was lead to believe I would receive HW 3, and not a promise to install it later if needed. Putting aside the hassle of a SC visit that would entail.

 

[KennethS]

What is the vin of these cars?

Mine is 439xxx

 

[Jeffoun]

If I am looking in the correct place, Teslafi is showing APH3 on mine as well. Given the supposed extra processing power in HW3, I will be disappointed if it turns out we have HW 2.5. Even though it may not yet be (fully) utilised by current firmware, having paid for FSD I was lead to believe I would receive HW 3, and not a promise to install it later if needed. Putting aside the hassle of a SC visit that would entail.

Agree and share your comments, however teslafi and remote s both return the same wrong raw data on many other features. It shows:
- car LHD , car is RHD
- non performance , car is performance
- 19 inch wheel, i have 20
- USA location , i am in the UK

Wondering if tesla is purposedly sending fake data via its API to 3rd party app providers...

It’s quite painful to not have easy transparency of what are the specs of the car you own!

 

[Jeffoun]

Apparently Tesla returns a generic set of option codes for all model 3.

Would be interesting to see if wee all get
AD15,MDL3,PBSB,RENA,BT37,ID3W,RF3G,S3PB,DRLH,DV2W,W39B,APF0,COUS,BC3B,CH07,PC30,FC3P,FG31,GLFR,HL31,HM31,IL31,LTPB,MR31,FM3B,RS3H,SA3P,STCP,SC04,SU3C,T3CA,TW00,TM00,UT3P,WR00,AU3P,APH3,AF00,ZCST,MI00,CDM0

RENA and DRLH... can’t physically be right for me

 

[KennethS]

Apparently Tesla returns a generic set of option codes for all model 3.

Would be interesting to see if wee all get
AD15,MDL3,PBSB,RENA,BT37,ID3W,RF3G,S3PB,DRLH,DV2W,W39B,APF0,COUS,BC3B,CH07,PC30,FC3P,FG31,GLFR,HL31,HM31,IL31,LTPB,MR31,FM3B,RS3H,SA3P,STCP,SC04,SU3C,T3CA,TW00,TM00,UT3P,WR00,AU3P,APH3,AF00,ZCST,MI00,CDM0

RENA and DRLH... can’t physically be right for me

Teslafi gives me that exact same list of codes. Mine is a M3P+, MSM with black interior. So perhaps it is just a generic list.

 

[Jeffoun]

Teslafi gives me that exact same list of codes. Mine is a M3P+, MSM with black interior. So perhaps it is just a generic list.

Yeah , raw data extract is not returning accurate data on m3 but just a generic set for all m3. Hardware version mystery continues I am going to assume I have HW3 until proven otherwise )