We don't know the actual policy today, but many of us that have had Powerwalls for a while are still on NEM1.
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powerwall install, NEM2 vs NEM1 & rate EV
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Sherlo
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well my install got bumped from early december to early february so nothing has happened.
however i did ask my rep to regenerate the paperwork under NEM1, and she did that, and i signed it. whether or not PGE accepts that is an open question but i got the feeling that this particular rep has applied under NEM1 and NEM2 and it's sort of the customer's choice.
Sherlo
Member
Just a heads up. Even though I applied under NEM1, when I got my first billing, PGE kicked me over to NEM2. Spent an hour talking to rep and manager before getting it resolved (back to NEM1).
JPP
Active Member
I have a 16kW SolarCity system installed in 2013. I was on EV-A and NEM1 until November 2019, when the clock caught up with me. I was switched off of EV-A, but still on NEM1. The new EV2-A plan is anathema. Best now for me is a TOU plan which I was switched to. I have 2 Powerwalls coming next Wednesday. AFAIK I will be able to stay on NEM1 (not adding any solar)...NEM lasts like 20-25 years so it will eventually run out. I am told that there is no way I can 'requalify' for EV-A after my PWs are installed.
Sherlo
Member
Question for those with PWs and PGE, are you able to monitor daily usage directly from the PGE site under “Energy Use Details” tab?
I am on PG&E and have a hybrid inverter similar to a Powerwall. I can only see my NET usage and generation but there are delays on the PG&E site. I rely on real time monitoring from my Inverters and other devices for more timely data.
zanary
Active Member
I have three powerwalls, and 10 panels, and I see nothing in terms of usage. My NGOM is going live in the next month or two, so I'm hoping I'll see the data then.
zanary
Active Member
Here is what I noticed.
(1) Normal house holds without PV or battery = They see all consumption
(2) Households with just batteries = They see all consumption
(3) Households with PV and batteries = They don't see details, but I'm hoping once I get my NGOM installed, I may see details, but I'm thinking that is wishful thinking.
Ever since I got my Powerwall PTO in April 2018, the charts provided by Opower don't show anything. My electric usage in those charts stops at my PTO cutoff date. However, I can download the data with the Green Button. Gas usage still works in Opower.
aesculus
Still Trying to Figure This All Out
I can see everything (2 PW + PV). The PG&E data is rounded to the nearest kWh and occasionally its off by 1 kWh but close enough. It's not billing data so probably some bugs in the rounding algorithm.
And BTW I don't have a current PTO for the PWs but doubt this makes any difference. I do have them for the PV.
zanary
Active Member
I could be wrong, but once your PTO comes in, you will loose all that visibility from the PG&E site in terms of the visuals.
aesculus
Still Trying to Figure This All Out
OK. That seems weird but I surely cannot comment at this point.
I guess I through that comment out there suspiciously because I am not in a pure environment and it could be a factor.
Sherlo
Member
That’s what happened to me and reason for question. Up until PTO the data was available but not anymore. Not sure the logic but good to know either way. Thanks
I can confirm as well that after PTO the energy usage details are no longer updating. I think the issue is that PG&E's backend systems aren't set up to fully handle the combined solar/battery rate plan that they put you on after PTO. The billing also gets weird - they give you the normal bill with a lot less information but also give you a detailed bill that contains so many line items it's almost unintelligible.
If you're on a CCA, the black and white bill goes to another level of unintelligible.
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