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…also, no one plugs in a phevs in rhe usa
We have many PHEVs at my work of all different makes and models at my work (e.g. BMW, Chrysler, Jeep, Toyota, Volvo, Chevy, Mitsubishi, etc.) They DO get plugged in and charged at work, esp. since L2 juice is free. I personally know some of the drivers.also, no one plugs in a phevs in rhe usa
Truth hurtsThis is old news
Non of PHEV neighbors plug in
From that report:Truth hurts
Hybrids are lame
The Volt is still almost in a class by itself among PHEVs. Especially since there really isn't a non-PHEV version.
Markets without government involve lots of private machine guns and lots of gunfights at the local saloon. There are anarchic parts of Africa where the only government is men in pickup trucks with AK-47s. So yes, you can have markets without government. Every person needs to own a few machine guns and ideally belong to a gang that is aligned with one of the local warlords.
But without a government, no, we can't have all of our nice and pretty Western cities, orderly living, and sophisticated markets.
What we consider civilized changes over time. Stoning a woman for adultery was once considered acceptable. Now it's not. Having children work in industrial factories and get their hands chopped off sometimes used to be acceptable. Now it's not. Having a child outside of marriage used to be grounds for exiling a woman from polite society. Now it's not.Exactly! Let the government govern, complete with fines and even imprisonment for those who refuse to act in a civilized manner, and let business do business. If each keeps their place, things work well.
When the government starts to run the money, things fall apart. You basically get a more civilized look at someone forcing everyone else to do what they want. No machine guns, at first, but also no free market.
The problem is conflating government control of laws with government control of the money. They're not the same thing! Government is a good thing. Government grown to the point of running everything, is a bad thing.
I have a friend who bought a RAV4 Prime while a hospice nurse. BEV wouldn't have worked for them.“It is clear in the real-world data that many PHEV drivers simply never plug in at all. Why would a driver purchase a PHEV if they don’t plan to make use of electric drive? Well, in some cases, PHEVs can be cheaper than their non-plug-in equivalents when factoring in federal and state incentives”
Don’t plug in your plug-in hybrid? EPA will now hold automakers responsible. - International Council on Clean Transportation
Accounting for the real-world use of PHEV’s would prevent over-crediting of GHG emission savingstheicct.org
Guys, enough back and forth
Hybrids might have made sense in 2001
Def not in 2024
Update on this neighbor as I posted back in that other thread:BTW, I've posted about my neighbor before at Who can catch Tesla ? They seem to be experiencing exponential growth…...
"My next door neighbor for some reason has 5 cars for 2 drivers. They've only ever had a single EV (currently a '22 Bolt EV). The rest are ICEV. They've had a previous Bolt and a Leaf before that. The husband seems to gallivant around in a relatively new guzzler Silverado despite gas being over $5/gal here. I've pointed out to the husband that even at crazy Pacific Gouge & Extort electricity prices, driving that Bolt is cheaper than the Silverado even when gas was $4/gal. (We have a 19 cent/kWh DC FC within 5 miles of home that is cheaper than charging at home.)
Apparently, he doesn't even usually go very far and not beyond where that DC FC is (he knows where it is too)."
Their car situation appears still unchanged: 4 ICEVs and 1 BEV for 2 drivers. One of them is an old Land Cruiser which he told me gets even worse gas mileage than his Silverado. Right now, per AAA Gas Prices, regular gasoline is averaging $4.60/gal in my city. The aforementioned 19 cent per kWh DC FC is still that price and still cheaper than charging at home here.
dude, you have been on TMC since July, 2012 and are kvetching about a dearth of V3 superchargers?I have a friend who bought a RAV4 Prime while a hospice nurse. BEV wouldn't have worked for them.
Here's the current state of CCS in Maine. It's 191.7 miles from CCS in Bangor to Van Buren. (BTW, the average temperature in Van Buren in January is 7.4F).
I"m not gong to show the Tesla Supercharger map, because requiring people to buy vehicles from a company with notoriously crap customer service that doesn't even have a service center in the state is unreasonable.
And even when Tesla opens up it's not going to help non-Tesla owners with Northern Maine coverage, because there isn't a V3 Supercharger north of Bangor. Jackman, Medway and Baileyville are all V2.
The wrenches are various CCS locations that are due to be built and opened this year. But the previous round were delayed, so who knows. But if those locations open _then_ Downeast Maine and The County will be more accessible to EVs. Although, not too many since most of the new locations will only have 2 chargers.
And Maine is quite proactive about charging and isn't that big a state. Lots and lots of holes to fill in the USA before anybody but EV fanbois would say that hybrids don't make sense.
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