Real World Range During Harsh Canadian Winters (-18C/0F)

[ytwytw]

Not the best picture - it was still -20 and I had my toddlers in tow.

Looks like the Tesla employee loves Vaughan mills and those ICE are jealous

 

[wallstguy]

TL;DR P90DX in single digit temps (F) can go about 150 miles.

Just took a trip in my X in cold temps on 20" Pirelli Winter Scorpions. Preheated in a 45F/ 7C garage, charged to 98% and unplugged just before leaving. Rear HVAC not on except to preheat before departure. Interior temps set to 64F/ C. Started out at ambient 1F/ -17C ended at -3F/ -19C. Traveled 154 mi/ 248km and used just about my whole battery capacity* of 84kW from a 90kWh battery. That’s 63% of Rated range and 52% of Ideal range. The in-car energy prediction at each stop was good, but the forecast dropped a few percentage points a few minutes after getting underway and then stayed on the new, higher consumption, track until the end.

*During this trip the car was parked for over an hour with climate on (and maybe battery pack heating too, but no snowflake), Wh/mi was about 490 immediately after resuming the trip so I assume the pack did not need heating or it would have been well over 500 for a while. There was a 3%/2.5 kWh drop over the 1.5 hours near 0F. About halfway home we leisurely ate dinner for about an hour and a half while the car charged at a destination charger with the climate on and arrived at home with 18% buffer.

BTW The windows fogged up easily and would clear with either forcing fresh air or using cold defrost for a few minutes at a time. I don’t know which is better; cold defrost may force fresh air anyway, but it is fewer screen taps. Either worked better and was more pleasant than blasting hot defrost.

Not bad, I'm averaging over 500wh/km currently, (today), but that was with the snow flake on my car and car parked outside for 5 hours in -20 C weather. Started the day off with 225km. Drove a total of 40km round trip, ended the day off at 87km left on the battery . So 138km of range consumed for ~40km. I think car was showing 550 or so wh/km average with 5 people in the car, and seat warmers set at level 2 for all of them, and steering wheel heater on, temperature set at 22 degrees C (72F) interior.

 

[Gwgan]

23C/72F, are you all in T-shirts? One ov two adults had seat heater on 1/3, all coats off, and the dog was with us in the back. When I set the thermostat to 18C/64F actual temps are more like 21C/70F. Sometimes I use 62F.
Honestly, I don’t know why they use an innacurate digital thermostat instead of red/blue gradient. Maybe the discrepancy is why they dont show the actual interior temp on the dash—the would never agree and the complaints would be unending.

 

[ytwytw]

Not bad, I'm averaging over 500wh/km currently, (today), but that was with the snow flake on my car and car parked outside for 5 hours in -20 C weather. Started the day off with 225km. Drove a total of 40km round trip, ended the day off at 87km left on the battery . So 138km of range consumed for ~40km. I think car was showing 550 or so wh/km average with 5 people in the car, and seat warmers set at level 2 for all of them, and steering wheel heater on, temperature set at 22 degrees C (72F) interior.

That’s pretty high,

My average is 400kw/km, 4 seats heat on level 2, mirror heat on, blade heat on, 23C for front @ fan 4, HI for rear @ fan 3

If everyone has some sweater on, I suggest turn on range mode, heat is reduced but great for short trips so less energy spend on battery heater

 

[crash1977mtl]

North of Montreal, parked overnight ~-20 C. Winter tires (Pirelli Scorpion) , properly inflated (44 PSI). Mix of 70% highway and 30% back country hilly roads.

I think everyone should assume you're going to get 50% or less range when you're dealing with real winter conditions. Obviously the warmer it gets and the more you can preheat the better.

First Drive:
Did not precondition the car, but it was plugged in.

21.71 km Driven
49.94 Rated km Used
455 Wh/km
43.5% Efficiency

Outside
-17.1 C

Inside
22.3 C

Fan Avg
8

Second Drive:
Parked outside, for about 2 hours, returned to home

21.49 km Driven
50.47 Rated km Used
455 Wh/km
43.5% Efficiency
Outside
-16.4 C

Inside
19.7 C

Fan Avg
8