red hand autopilot warning

[Jtt777]

Hi all,

I've noticed a couple times now my first warning appearing as the red hands autopilot warning, not the kindlier, gentler one. It is not autopilot jail however. I can continue using it normally. I still get the regular warning most of the time.

Any idea what triggers that warning? Is it something new with the latest update? I didn't get it before.

 

[ChrisH]

Hi all,

I've noticed a couple times now my first warning appearing as the red hands autopilot warning, not the kindlier, gentler one. It is not autopilot jail however. I can continue using it normally. I still get the regular warning most of the time.

Any idea what triggers that warning? Is it something new with the latest update? I didn't get it before.

Same. Noticed this once the other day. Not sure what it means.

 

[Johnabis]

are you referring to the one that says grab the wheel immediately? I noticed this for the first time recently as well.

 

[chronopc]

I noticed it a couple of times recently as well. Seems like it's in situations where EAP is not sure how to react so it wants the driver to take over.

 

[jsrawa]

It seems to be when Autopilot is unsure about how to react, like poor lane markings etc.

 

[apsen]

It seems to be when Autopilot is unsure about how to react, like poor lane markings etc.

Like the one when autopilot disengages due to radar and/or visibility problems?

 

[Jedi2155]

I've had a few times too and it scares the bejeezus out of me the fiest time. Sky and roads were relatively clear though....

 

[127.0.0.0]

I got the rand hand warning as well this was while navigate on autopilot and lane merging while Car was also going to get off a exit.. On CA 680

 

[sperkin]

Same. Sometimes it happens as soon as you turn on Autopilot. No car in front or the side. AP will freak out and give up on control.

 

[chronopc]

I notice some phantom breaking when there's a car in the right most lane sometimes as well. It seems like NOA is incorrectly expecting a merge.

 

[ewoodrick]

I do indeed believe that it is new. It is an indication that the car no longer believes that it can safely drive itself. I have one segment of road that has a "hidden" curve in it and if I take it at 35 mph, I have no issue, but if I go to 45 mph, the car decides that it just can't handle the situation.

It's the car saying "I give up, your turn"

 

[ℬête Noire]

I notice some phantom breaking when there's a car in the right most lane sometimes as well. It seems like NOA is incorrectly expecting a merge.

I've seen it with cars approaching from a left merge lane, as well, when the lane is at a higher than normal angle. Where the vehicle is at an higher than normal angle to your lane. They have their own lane that they'll merge on but the angle of approach seems to have EAP extrapolate an intercept?

P.S. There is also an overpass near my home that has a curve happening through the apex of the overpass, and it appears the walls freak out EAP, too, enough that it slows down. I'm pretty sure it can still see the lane markings, so it's not that.

 

[chronopc]

I've seen it with cars approaching from a left merge lane, as well, when the lane is at a higher than normal angle. Where the vehicle is at an higher than normal angle to your lane. They have their own lane that they'll merge on but the angle of approach seems to have EAP extrapolate an intercept?

P.S. There is also an overpass near my home that has a curve happening through the apex of the overpass, and it appears the walls freak out EAP, too, enough that it slows down. I'm pretty sure it can still see the lane markings, so it's not that.

I also notice that sometimes EAP will think the shoulder is a lane and would want to go over to the exit lane.

 

[ℬête Noire]

I also notice that sometimes EAP will think the shoulder is a lane and would want to go over to the exit lane.

I've not noticed this. Lots of times I've seen a tight curb convince it there is no lane (right or left). It could be I just didn't see the display of it, though, I don't watch the lane marker display on the screen much.

 

[Jtt777]

Okay. Good to know it’s not just me. Maybe this is an improvement. It doesn’t happen that often and didn’t shut off autopilot.

 

[ℬête Noire]

Okay. Good to know it’s not just me. Maybe this is an improvement. It doesn’t happen that often and didn’t shut off autopilot.

As you continue to get experience and learn what EAP is going to likely have trouble with you won't be as surprised, and the "WTF was that???" factor that can drive a sense of panic subsides.

 

[M+K.Reeser]

I noticed it a couple of times recently as well. Seems like it's in situations where EAP is not sure how to react so it wants the driver to take over.

Bingo! It should be accompanied by a rather annoying beeping and reduction in audio volume.
That youe M3 telling you "I CAN'T HANDLE IT!" If you fail to respond the car will stop.