bkp_duke
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Proof of bioweapon labs please. Otherwise, you are just spouting Putin's tripe.
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Says the guy who’s son is responsible for this forum:
Your question will be relayed to Elon Musk’s dadProof of bioweapon labs please. Otherwise, you are just spouting Putin's tripe.
Your question will be relayed to Elon Musk’s dad
Do not blame the son for the sins of the father.Says the guy who’s son is responsible for this forum:
So you have no proof, you just spout Kremlin bullshit and hope it sticks enough.
I would be looking for a new job if I were you, things aren't looking so rosey in la-la-land.
Once it becomes clear that Russia can't hold onto Crimea then Putin will likely lose his job. This is a time honored Russian tradition. It's not guaranteed but it's likely that his replacement (even a hard-right replacement) will choose to end the war in Ukraine. This will give them their best chance of getting Russia back on its feet and staying in power while it happens. Blame everything on the CrazyIvanWar Criminal.
The alternative of losing Crimea and the war under your watch and committing more war crimes in Ukraine thus getting your own personal invitation to the Hague does not have a lot of appeal. If Putin could turn back the clock and not invade Ukraine, I'm sure he would jump at the chance. It's unlikely that a war criminal will lead Russia while it re-joins the international community.
An implosion in Russia is possible but not necessary. Yes, there could be some really horrific outcomes but not all outcomes need to be horrific. If there is a successful counter-offensive by Ukraine this summer cutting off the land bridge to Crimea then we have the best shot at a relatively peaceful (not world-ending) transfer of power in Russia. It would have been much better if the West hadn't dilly-dallied with giving Ukraine the weapons it needs so we could have ended this whole thing last summer.
Pretty sure Harpoons don't have the range to get from Odesa to Sevastapol to hit the fleet there. Unless something has changed, IIRC they are not capable to be air-launched either (but that can change with the proper mounting equipment developments).
EDIT - Harpoon:
278 km on the land-launched version (rocket booster), shorter range on the air-launched version, but the plane can do most of the work.
Google says Odesa - Sevestapol is 301 km, just outside of the range of Harpoon.
Storm Shadow air-launched version has a 250km range for the export version (560km for the version GB keeps for themselves).
I'd be glad to have a reasonable discussion with you but if you only post links to absurd Putin propaganda tweets then it's not much of a discussion.
I'd be glad to have a reasonable discussion with you but if you only post links to absurd Putin propaganda tweets then it's not much of a discussion.
Pretty sure Harpoons don't have the range to get from Odesa to Sevastapol to hit the fleet there. Unless something has changed, IIRC they are not capable to be air-launched either (but that can change with the proper mounting equipment developments).
EDIT - Harpoon:
278 km on the land-launched version (rocket booster), shorter range on the air-launched version, but the plane can do most of the work.
Google says Odesa - Sevestapol is 301 km, just outside of the range of Harpoon.
Storm Shadow air-launched version has a 250km range for the export version (560km for the version GB keeps for themselves).
3 U.S. officials report damage is minimal, that the system remains operational, and that there appears no need to remove the Patriot for repairs.
This sounds like falling debris.
I like your POV and I hope the comfortable Russian citizenry feel the same, although fwiw (practically nothing), my first take on the pathetic parade was that tanks were not on parade because they are in UKR. Since it is hard for me to accept that any normal human believes the 'limited operation' BS line of propaganda, finding that the entire tank corps is mobilized is not news or surprising. I can actually imagine the opposite: a parade full of tanks might cause people to ask "what the heck is Putin doing? Mobiks yes, tanks no ??"Nothing says "weak" quite as much as having no modern tanks left over from your special military operation to display in a parade designed to flaunt your military strength.
I like your POV and I hope the comfortable Russian citizenry feel the same, although fwiw (practically nothing), my first take on the pathetic parade was that tanks were not on parade because they are in UKR. Since it is hard for me to accept that any normal human believes the 'limited operation' BS line of propaganda, finding that the entire tank corps is mobilized is not news or surprising. I can actually imagine the opposite: a parade full of tanks might cause people to ask "what the heck is Putin doing? Mobiks yes, tanks no ??"
I suppose my point is that it is not obvious to me that the Russian citizenry saw the parade and thought 'weak military.'
Indeed.
3 U.S. officials report damage is minimal, that the system remains operational, and that there appears no need to remove the Patriot for repairs.
This sounds like falling debris.
Live updates: Russia's war in Ukraine
The Dictators little servile serfs in the Kremlin says that hypersonic missile scientists who worked on the Khinzal missiles are now being investigated for high treason since it turned out that the worthless POS missiles could be shot down. The Dictators laughably bad propaganda had promised that the missiles could not be shot down, but yesterday a total of six were shot down in a single night. A single Khinzal had been shot down earlier. The accusations of treason are based on that the scientists presented the results of experiments with hypersonic robots at a seminar in France in 2016. The Dictator has yet again managed to find some more scapegoats for his own catastrophic failures.
And according to some other publication these scientists have now been arrested.
Russia says hypersonic missile scientists face 'very serious' treason accusations
Three Russian academics who have worked on hypersonic missile technology face "very serious accusations", the Kremlin said on Wednesday, in a treason investigation that has spread alarm through Russia's scientific community.www.reuters.com
I'd be glad to have a reasonable discussion with you but if you only post links to absurd Putin propaganda tweets then it's not much of a discussion.
As I have posted previously, Ukraine has already pushed Russia away from the major cities: Kyiv, Karkhiv, and Kherson. Ukraine has also pushed back Russians from north and south of Bakhmut and have encircled and eliminated Russian troops in the southern salient. Therefore the wild claims in the tweet you linked to are demonstrably false. Not only is Ukraine able to dislodge Russian troops from their positions, Ukraine has already done it a number of times.
As for the upcoming Ukrainian counter-offensive, I don't know what the outcome will be. I hope they will be able to cut the land bridge to Crimea this summer which may be enough to dislodge Putin from power. This should not be too hard after his pathetic Victory Day celebration. Nothing says "weak" quite as much as having no modern tanks left over from your special military operation to display in a parade designed to flaunt your military strength.
I like your POV and I hope the comfortable Russian citizenry feel the same, although fwiw (practically nothing), my first take on the pathetic parade was that tanks were not on parade because they are in UKR. Since it is hard for me to accept that any normal human believes the 'limited operation' BS line of propaganda, finding that the entire tank corps is mobilized is not news or surprising. I can actually imagine the opposite: a parade full of tanks might cause people to ask "what the heck is Putin doing? Mobiks yes, tanks no ??"
I suppose my point is that it is not obvious to me that the Russian citizenry saw the parade and thought 'weak military.'
Sure, I agree. The paltry VD parade by itself is not going to lead to Putin's downfall. The problem comes when you combine the paltry parade ("all our troops and tanks are at the front where they belong") with a significant military setback ("Oh shucks, we are all-in and lost anyway and we may soon lose Crimea"). The fig leaf of this only being a special military operation is gone. Instead, the specter of being the second best military in Ukraine starts to loom.I like your POV and I hope the comfortable Russian citizenry feel the same, although fwiw (practically nothing), my first take on the pathetic parade was that tanks were not on parade because they are in UKR. Since it is hard for me to accept that any normal human believes the 'limited operation' BS line of propaganda, finding that the entire tank corps is mobilized is not news or surprising. I can actually imagine the opposite: a parade full of tanks might cause people to ask "what the heck is Putin doing? Mobiks yes, tanks no ??"
I suppose my point is that it is not obvious to me that the Russian citizenry saw the parade and thought 'weak military.'