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Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

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Kirk has 5 rules for success. It's all or nothing. You must follow all 5:

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#1. Don't bet the farm even if you feel your trade is 100% right, because reversal is instant and you won't see the black swan coming. Remember Tuesday 2pm's SPY 1 million puts? 10-pt drop in 14 minutes while you were napping. Remember Hertz / Evergrande? You want to escape but there's no room. You can't wiggle out if you're already all-in. This is Kirk's #1 rule: don't use up all the capital you have.

To me, #2 is key. Options is a casino, which means you want to be the house and not be the gambler, which means YOU make ALL the rules, which means you set the rules in your favor, which means probability of OTM, which means respecting STDDEV / delta. Options is all about probabilities and statistics. It's a numbers game. Don't look at news, chats, feelings, sentiments, AI, FSD, CT release, etc. Look at delta. TA helps, but don't bet on it. Example is yesterday: all day long, 61% fib was safe, until it wasn't in the last hour. Can you imagine making at bet at 3pm based on the fib because all the candles said it's good bet?

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So if we can't trust TA, who can we trust? TA is only a helper that looks at the past. Stock heat maps can be faked. Dark pool can be faked. We can only hope for the next best thing: the chain. This is Kirk's rule #2. If you want to be successful, you have to look at HIGH probabilities. Those are his exact words: "with a high probability of success". Don't even trust OI / Volume. How do i know? Last Friday highest enormous tall call wall was 250 ALL WEEK LONG, yet we closed 253.50. So, near-the-money bets would be extremely risky since delta is high.

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#3 is TSLA, clearly.

#4 is not rocket science. You can't sell a covered call at MMD. A small change in volatility changes premium and you're instantly at unrealized loss right out of the gate. All because you were not patient.

#5 means you need churn / volume (ie round 2 same day, etc.) This is why i do IC laddering. Why sell IC once a week if i can sell once a day, moving my new strikes up/down to where the stock price is?
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He explains it better:

All good points. I don't trade options, only blocks of 100 TSLA shares, but the lessons above apply to stocks as well, different sides of the same coin you might say; the same risks and anxieties and methods apply to shares. I'd like to add to your points above since I know there are others here who follow this thread but don't trade options, just share blocks.

1) Point one above applies equally to share blocks. Absolutely don't bet the farm. That can't be stressed enough. Live to trade another day is good guidance, because you can't play this game if you kill yourself (Like Buffet says, "In order to succeed you must first survive.") SURVIVAL must be first and foremost on the brain every day. My trades are but small portions of my overall portfolio, and I hope, in the long run, my long shares will make me the real money over the years. The trading is just to feed a sickness or something, I can't help it. But in order to do so I need to maintain a split-personality, where I keep my trading-self in an entirely separate compartment of my brain to my long-term-investing self. Keep trades small so you can sleep at night and prevent ulcers. I never use margin. I used to, and I've only lost. Face it: if you can't win with 20 shares, you can't win. Start small, learn by doing, with skin in the game. You can't do a double-back flip on a motorcycle without first learning how to kick the bike over and riding it on level ground.

2) Points two and four overlap, because "A High Probability of Success" depends on "Using the Right Strategy." Another way of saying this is: Find Your Edge, and that edge has to be as simple and uncomplicated as possible. I have developed my own edge that tips the odds in my favor, nothing more. This also means adjusting the dosage of your betting (ie, Trade Small Positions, but not too small, because, after all, the goal is to make money so you can buy/do whatever you want). I'm a strong proponent of DEVELOPING YOUR OWN STRATEGY AND KEEPING IT SIMPLE. Unlike Yoona, I do keep up with Tesla news and take a cursory glance at headlines in the morning, watch Tesla Daily each day, among other things. I have no gurus and think for myself and blame only myself for trading failures. My strategy encompasses tivoboy's comment a few weeks ago "to let the shareprice come to you;" to me this means not telling myself stories about future "probabilities" and then place trades based on fantasy probability projections. Find an unemotional, simple strategy and stick with it. Let chaos unfold naturally. Don't get on the wrong side of chaos. The options trader Nassim Taleb has a great series of books called the "Incerto series" on probabilities, chaos and reality--I can't recommend it enough, a good beginners guide to thinking about probability.

3) I'm strongly against the "As Many Times As You Can" strategy. I do better the less I trade. I used to trade too much, and that got me into trouble. It's very rare that I put in more than one or two trades a week. I'm very content with a $500-3000 week (or not making money at all, that's fine, I just hate losing money), but that goes back to my point above: COME UP WITH YOUR OWN STRATEGY, AND ADJUST THE DOSAGE OF YOUR BETS BASED ON YOUR NEEDS AND YOUR PERSONAL SITUATION, NOT BASED ON THE COMMANDMENTS OF A GURU OR OPTIONS CHAIN OR TA.

4) I don't know what stacking or laddering is, but I'm guessing it's analogous to using blocks of shares. So for example, when I place a bet, I only buy/sell one or two blocks of 100, and adjust later using additional blocks. Obviously the goal is to buy low and sell high, but that's not always possible. I only allow myself 500-600 shares MAX (so five to six blocks). And when my blocks are used up, I'm done. No questions asked, and I give myself a time-out until the SP recovers so I can't do any further damage to myself. If that means waiting a whole year, that's what I do. Once again, surviving and avoiding ruin is paramount.

5) Finally, I don't panic. Ever. Emotions/anxiety are your enemy. I never rush to my computer to make a trade (in the beginning I used to and I'd just screw myself, hell I'd even make clerical errors and buy or sell when I meant to do the opposite because I'm working in a hurry). A calm, patient mindset is key. Good sleep is everything to me, because if I can't sleep, I can't think right, and if I can't think right, I make emotional, bad decisions. But that's just me, that's just part of my personal strategy/edge. Again, coming up with your own strategy is everything, in my opinion. There is no one-size-fits-all.
 
That particular indicator is actually free(!). Just need an account but without a subscription (that's what it appears to me since I let my subscription expire and I can still load that page but not the others). It also shows Dealer Deltas which is nice to see. The link to that particular page is here: "Options Analytics & Market Data Insights"

Let me know if it works for you.

tried this page - signing up just for the free account for now - and looks like to see that i have to upgrade to a paying account (70/mo or 700/yr) - assuming i am not missing something (not a safe bet). anyone else have any luck?

assuming it reequires the premium subscription - be interesting to see how long you are able to see it after you cancelled
 
tried this page - signing up just for the free account for now - and looks like to see that i have to upgrade to a paying account (70/mo or 700/yr) - assuming i am not missing something (not a safe bet). anyone else have any luck?

assuming it reequires the premium subscription - be interesting to see how long you are able to see it after you cancelled

Dunno, my membership expired in November and I can't access premium features without a warning about needing to be a premium member, yet the other page (Options Analytics & Market Data Insights) loads fine for me. 🤷‍♂️

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Jim. Refresh the Algo, then hover over the end of one of the lines and look at the time stamp. Compare to your watch. What delay do you see without Premium? I'm at about 3 minutes with Premium. Thanks.

Tried again, it's still about 2-min, BUT I noticed the yellow line updates/extends with each refresh and it seems the timestamp is just for the new segment. It could be realtime.
 
Interesting observation re TSLA and EW. If I understand it correctly, it echoes what @dl003 is saying about TSLA needing to go lower here in order to go meaningfully higher. Parenthetically, those saying that TSLA needs a huge catalyst to take out the DTL are right. We may just finish 2023 below the DTL (~$265) and cycle down (as also Cary has been saying for a while, coming from a different methodology of TA and line studies).


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I’m reassessing my covered calls strategy. The combination of economic data plus the ice cold inflation data has solidified, to me, that we’re entering a Goldilocks scenario and a new roaring 20’s and thus…a repeat of Nov 2021 is increasingly likely and the surprise announcement that causes the run could come out at any time. I mean it was beyond silly for the stock to run 80% in a month and a half on the Hertz news last time.

Hoping we get that market wide rug pull post Xmas so that I can buy back the cc’s I sold a few months back for Dec 2025 between 375-420 strike prices. Before I was going to let time decay do its work and try and close them out later in 2024 as TSLA stagnates for the first half of 2024.

But the macro dynamics are shifting so fast into a dramatic Fed rate cut combined with no recession that I think the market is going to be looking for ANY excuse to ride TSLA much higher back to its ATH before they pull the rug on it yet again. I don’t really think the run will be because of anything Tesla’s auto business is doing (will still be tough year) but that the market in a new bull run will look past 2024 now

Man I don’t know how some of you guys can stomach selling weekly or monthly covered calls. I’d be unable to sleep at night given the macro dynamics right now.
 
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Guess based on the new toys (algo) we all going be day trading next week.

JK - it's a great tool perhaps telling us when to get in and when to get out, Let see how accurate it is.

I'm done for the week. Made it out with net $300 after rolling $400 into long call for next week. That's buy me some big bags of kibble.
Pee myself this week when we dump $10 in 15 minutes.

Good luck team and have a happy Holiday everyone.

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