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It might appear that this board is full of zealots defending the church of musk, but WarpedOne's points were irrefutable. Back in 2015 SA was full of naysayers saying that the other manufacturers were operating in stealth mode and won't release a tesla-fighter until it was good and ready for sale. The only thing that came close was the bolt and they just entered production last week. Everyone else simply started announcing their plans to release something in 2019, defeating every claim about hidden tesla-fighting-ev project.
So we at least have the cars announced now. Where's the Tesla Energy competitors? Sonnenbatterie was the big one, and their latest product (announced in June) hadn't even been delivered yet, before TE osbourned it:
Sonnen introduces new residential battery at up to 40% cost reduction.
To WarpedOne's point, "Show us the money" before factoring in upcoming competition. Yes, the ICE auto market is fiercely competitive, but the BEV market has barely started. The utility market is entrenched with incumbents, but the distributed generating market is nascent. We're watching the collapse of the feature-phone and film-camera market replay here. Let's see if Tesla becomes apple or canon (they lead in the consumer digital camera market only to be supplanted by smartphones)?
I'm hedging that they'll actually become like Apple (pre-dot-com), before Jobs learned to be less eccentric, full of promise but occasionally tripped over themselves in their execution. It took years for the competition to catch up, but only with Apple's help.
