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Fast being relative. And only if you want to drive in The Netherlands.
By the time the new Ampera is on the European market, Fastned will be at 150kW and expanding elsewhere in Europe.
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Fast being relative. And only if you want to drive in The Netherlands.
By the time the new Ampera is on the European market, Fastned will be at 150kW and expanding elsewhere in Europe.
By the time the new Ampera is on the European market, Fastned will be at 150kW and expanding elsewhere in Europe.
Fastned
50 kWh CHAdeMo and CCS.
BTW
If GM really wanted a Model 3 killer they would make a BEV Cadillac ATS with 238 miles of EPA Range for an MSRP of $37,500 with standard DC fast charging.
And get together with the other Detroit and European car makers on building a 150 kWh CCS Network in North America,Europe and China.
As I've stated before, they will loose $5,000 per vehicle. I know this from employees.So, while giving them the benefit of the doubt, I'd like to see the official EPA rating on that Bolt... With those aerodynamics, they would probably need a 60+ pack in that thing. There is no way they are not losing money on that car if the values are true.
Having said that, Tesla would be able to match that, I have no doubts. The question is, other than bragging rights for the longest range entry model, will they want to given the Bolt's production limit?
By the time Ampera is on the European market CCS will not have their *sugar* together for 150 kW.
And Fastned will expand to select European markets.
I think it will, but the Ampera-e might not allow more than 50kWh.
Well, they are in a funding crunch but the plan has always been to expand Europe wide. But Fastned is not the only one moving in this space. There is GO fast in Switzerland, there are the highway corridors in Germany (in which Fastned is participating too), there is a Clever from Denmark, Ecocitry in the UK, etc. The actual providers of the charging hardware itself like ABB and ilk are also itching to expand because they see it as a real growth market, so the technical solutions will be there. It's the car that's been missing right now.
European price of the new Ampera may give us insight on wether they are making a loss. Worldwide demand should not be a problem, a new Ampera doing 350km+ for less than 35k EUR should sell 10 000 units in the Netherlands alone. There is already a fast charging network in place that provides better coverage than Tesla (by far) too.
Every Bolt sold in CA will bring in 4 ZEV credits, which is worth about $16k in total.
As I've stated before, they will loose $5,000 per vehicle. I know this from employees.
Wish them success but am still waiting to see what the car comes with. What options will need to be added. For instance look at volt. If you want any sort of options like ACC (not available yet at highway speeds) you need to get premier trim, same is true for car based navigation, confidence 1 and 2 packages (lane departure warning parking assistance and collision avoidance) your MSRP at 40K up from LT trim at 33K. Not hearing anything about auto pilot. Tesla you can upgrade on X/S for 3K at anytime. History on cutting silly things on volt too. They cut out Homelink option to save money on 40K car. Also look at Chevy ads, do you see any advertising volt? See there gas cars but not voltsScratch $5K loss - apparently they felt the heat and dropped the price from $37.5K to $35K. So the list price loss will be $7.5K per unit.
In reality, they will need to discount Bolt further, I am thinking at least additional $5K to move planned 30K units per year. There is no way this subcompact sells in any reasonable quantity unless it is at least $5K cheaper than Model 3.
GM says Bolt EV will have 238 miles range, besting Tesla Model 3
Ok, I will tell you. That isn't how those algorithms work, you actually stuffing the book it otherwise manipulating prices in that way is both highly illegal and closely watched for. Every HFT is required to have a compliance team that is required to report anything that even looks like the situation you are describing to regulators daily.Tell me high speed traders have nothing to do with this. With their capability to front or back load stocks so rapidly, Tsla is a perfect stock in our really uncertain macro environment and as a disrupter building out so much of its own infrastructure which confuses those who have only the traditional "metric"—e.g., loses divided by number of cars produced.
Wish them success but am still waiting to see what the car comes with. What options will need to be added. For instance look at volt. If you want any sort of options like ACC (not available yet at highway speeds) you need to get premier trim, same is true for car based navigation, confidence 1 and 2 packages (lane departure warning parking assistance and collision avoidance) your MSRP at 40K up from LT trim at 33K. Not hearing anything about auto pilot. Tesla you can upgrade on X/S for 3K at anytime. History on cutting silly things on volt too. They cut out Homelink option to save money on 40K car. Also look at Chevy ads, do you see any advertising volt? See there gas cars but not volts
Ok, I will tell you. That isn't how those algorithms work, you actually stuffing the book it otherwise manipulating prices in that way is both highly illegal and closely watched for. Every HFT is required to have a compliance team that is required to report anything that even looks like the situation you are describing to regulators daily.
I couldn't care less if you were long or short or bearish or bullish and personally consider that utterly useless. Who cares if someone had a different thesis. The amount of time certain members here spend throwing out accusations that someone is a short like it's a bad thing has happened disappointed me. I wish people would get over that. This isn't the TSLA stock bull fanclub, is a short term investment board. Many of us should be selling or even going short/buying puts on occasion and if you aren't then you have clearly left money on the table. Some people here disagree with the prevailing thesis. get over it. /RantI find this rather extreme view.
And if Elon thinks similarly, he should have disclosed it, at least as strongly as Zuckerberg in his initial letter to investors.
In the letter Zuckberberg says that the company “was built to accomplish a social mission” and claims, “we don’t build services to make money; we make money to build better services.” And if you consider master plan as clear as Zuk's statement, you're much better in reading between the lines than I am.
Even after this disclaimer, Zuckerberg has shown a lot more respect for playing expectations game than Elon. Yes, it's a game, but being public company means playing in that sandbox.
Before you feel compelled to criticize me, remember that I'm 100% in TSLA, reservation 3 holder, and currently negotiating to try and trade my older Porsche on classic P90D (for Q3). I am NOT an enemy here. If I'm not devoted enough, so be it.