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I think you'll get it, especially if Hillary puts the nail in Trump's coffin tonight.
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
.... And that the step change to 2.0 is a big leap forward, perhaps bigger than most expect. Notice how it's not the next iteration of APRIL were thinking of here, not version 1.23 but 2.0.
That's right - they can just issue bonds.
MitchJi
Trying to learn kindness, patience & forgiveness
Autopilot 2.0 makes sense from another perspective: they need to really firmly move away from all of the criticism that they have been receiving recently. It seems (e.g. from recent Consumer Reports article) that software v8.0 was only partly successful in deflecting that criticism, so perhaps a new hardware upgrade could really help to draw a line under it.
3Victoria
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I have nothing that isn't a WAG. Maybe a coupe version of Model S or something else out of left field.
Separate announcement for integrated PW 2.0/charger would make sense because that could be of interest to all Tesla vehicle owners (even those who aren't interested in solar) but will probably just do this as part of the 10/28 event.
Seems unlikely to be any of the new vehicles that have been announced (Y, Pickup, Semi, Minibus).
AP 2.0 doesn't seem to fit the "unexpected by most" language. Everyone expects AP 2.0, only issue is timing.
Separate announcement for integrated PW 2.0/charger would make sense because that could be of interest to all Tesla vehicle owners (even those who aren't interested in solar) but will probably just do this as part of the 10/28 event.
Seems unlikely to be any of the new vehicles that have been announced (Y, Pickup, Semi, Minibus).
AP 2.0 doesn't seem to fit the "unexpected by most" language. Everyone expects AP 2.0, only issue is timing.
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This is ridiculous. Tesla Energy has no value.
Electrifying
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Elon said probably not necessary for Q1'17 either. With the Model 3 trial production deadline being July 2017, this indicates Tesla can self-finance almost all the expenses for Model 3 ramp up because a capital raise in Q2'17 seems too late for the ramp-up.
trying to make sense of the cap/debt tweet... it seems the board immediately jumped to "they need cash but will get it from other sources".
i'll use this link as reference as I'm too lazy this Sunday to go digging...
Tesla Has Big Need For Cash In Third Quarter
"If the two third-quarter payments are subtracted from the mid-year cash balance, Tesla would have $2.1 billion left over. The company on Wednesday told analysts it planned $1.75 million [typo: billion] in the second half of the year on capital expenditures."
which would leave them with about $400m short of sales revenues.
so the situation is one of:
1) they need cash but will get it from private or creative sources
2) they are not spending at the rate they anticipated
3) they needed cash but between q3/q4 sales have made up for it
i'm guessing it's either #1 or #2... if it's #2 that wouldn't bode well for the M3 timeline... correct?
but do these numbers/options make sense?
i'll use this link as reference as I'm too lazy this Sunday to go digging...
Tesla Has Big Need For Cash In Third Quarter
"If the two third-quarter payments are subtracted from the mid-year cash balance, Tesla would have $2.1 billion left over. The company on Wednesday told analysts it planned $1.75 million [typo: billion] in the second half of the year on capital expenditures."
which would leave them with about $400m short of sales revenues.
so the situation is one of:
1) they need cash but will get it from private or creative sources
2) they are not spending at the rate they anticipated
3) they needed cash but between q3/q4 sales have made up for it
i'm guessing it's either #1 or #2... if it's #2 that wouldn't bode well for the M3 timeline... correct?
but do these numbers/options make sense?
But Elon said, that the product is not expected by most. Everyone expects AP 2.0.
Another option: maybe 17th is the Y reveal and they hope to take another few hundred million in reservation fees?
and this was filed with the SEC 2 days ago:
PRELIMINARY JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS
DATED OCTOBER 7, 2016, SUBJECT TO COMPLETION
"Tesla is currently planning to raise additional funds by the end of this year, including through potential equity or debt offerings, subject to market conditions and recognizing that Tesla cannot be certain that additional funds would be available to it on favorable terms or at all."
Tesla Motors - Registration Statement
this is very confusing
PRELIMINARY JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS
DATED OCTOBER 7, 2016, SUBJECT TO COMPLETION
"Tesla is currently planning to raise additional funds by the end of this year, including through potential equity or debt offerings, subject to market conditions and recognizing that Tesla cannot be certain that additional funds would be available to it on favorable terms or at all."
Tesla Motors - Registration Statement
this is very confusing
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