Leafdriver333
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Heated seats is a must for me.
I wish I lived in a warmer climate... maybe after retirement.
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SR downgrade finally coming!
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I wish I lived in a warmer climate... maybe after retirement.
I don’t believe that. The only people that knew about SR were those that purchased it on the configurator or those that had to specifically ask about it because they previously saw it on the configurator. They may have selectively decided what they believed later but they knew earlier there was more than just those two features.
In the end, they will still get way more than they were told they would get.
The problem with this story is they weren’t actively pushing the SR. You would have to know about it and specifically inquire about it. Those people knew the difference.
It's nice that TMC allows you to check out a member's post history.
For example, it may be helpful to know that before making numerous "contributions" to this thread, a user's last "contributions" to TMC were two years ago, to a thread called "Canceled my Model 3 Reservation"
A few sample posts below from that thread and others will give you the gist.
Apparently the email that went out yesterday specifically said heated seats will be deleted.
I disagree. The media went nuts when Tesla finally released the $35,000 Standard Range model. I suspect thousands of people who never even opened the Tesla website went directly to the closest dealer and ordered the SR on the spot. I would say that many folks just didn’t want to spend $50K plus on a Tesla but considered $35K doable didn’t know the differences between the two. All that mattered was the price.
Yes. Now click on the “communicated in April” link. You will see the heated seat deletion reference there.
It’s just an image file so there is no link. If you have the link can you post it please.
No, I fully grasp the point. BL: the people that got the SR got more than was originally intended (Vegan leather seats, different console, etc.). Did these people look up what the trim of the SR versus SR+ was? So no, personally, if I made a conscious decision to buy a car for a different price knowing it would be downgraded, no I wouldn't be upset. That's why I didn't buy a SR. That's why I didn't buy a SR+ because I wanted certain features that were not offered in those trims.
Also, I've bought enough cars (I actually own a Cadillac CTS-V) to know to take what a salesperson says with a grain of salt. Most of these people know less about what I am buying than I do. I've done the research to know what I want and what i want to pay before I walk into the store/dealer. It was pretty clearly communicated from Tesla from the beginning what would be included/not included. While it isn't right that Tesla employees may or may not have communicated something contrary to that affect, it doesn't absolve caveat emptor. I suspect this is why Tesla wants and encourages online ordering and initially pushed to close galleries and stores.
Being disappointed and/or pissed because of vague emails versus threatening to sue over a technicality on what was given on a monroney label knowing what your (collective your) intent was are two different things; one is an abuse of the legal system and is immoral.
That update was published in early March. It looks like someone updated the date to April 11 but did not correct the misleading information. The document that was distributed to customers via Tesla sales reps was this one. I believe the author got confused in thinking the heated rear seats in the LR models was also in the SR+ but it was not, so there was no difference between SR and SR+ regarding heated seats. No doubt they confused everyone though with this communication.
That update was really published on April 11.
How do I know? Because I bought my SR+ on April 4th and delivered on April 6th.
I initially ordered an SR on April 1st and switched to SR+ on April 4th. Having known the interior were going to be the same I would have stick with the SR. As soon as I saw it I called Tesla (April 12th) since I still was on my return period and I would have returned the car and bought an SR but I was told I will be able to downgrade and get a refund on price difference so no need to return the car.
Obviously if they don’t take away the front heated seats even better.
The trim comparison document I posted was heavily distributed in the retail showrooms and it clearly states that heated front seats are included in both SR and SR+ so I don’t see Tesla going back on that promise. If it’s any comfort I took delivery of a true “SR” last week and it had a window sticker stating it was an “SR”, it was software locked to 220 miles, and the heated front seats definitely work.
Okay here's the basic problem
TESLA SALES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SELLING AND INSTEAD OF SAYING THEY DON'T KNOW THEY JUST MAKE STUFF UP!!!!
I went to the Stanford, Ca. tesla office to buy a Model 3 - two sales people told me directly opposite information about the car I would purchase!! Both had worked there a while - so who was I to believe??? The simplest issue was that my car would come with cloth seats (this was in April when it was well known that no cars had been delivered with these seats and I had to decide if I thought they would retool before my car would be delivered). Of course this was after the Burlingame office had told me I COULD NOT ORDER a basic model but after reading online I called the Stanford office the next day and was told sure I could.
While some may seem to be asking for things unrealistically it does seem that at a minimum Tesla could simply provide accurate basic information that is easily available to both sales people and to customers - then we wouldn't be having this discussion!
TESLA SALES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SELLING AND INSTEAD OF SAYING THEY DON'T KNOW THEY JUST MAKE STUFF UP!!!!
I went to the Stanford, Ca. tesla office to buy a Model 3 - two sales people told me directly opposite information about the car I would purchase!! Both had worked there a while - so who was I to believe??? The simplest issue was that my car would come with cloth seats (this was in April when it was well known that no cars had been delivered with these seats and I had to decide if I thought they would retool before my car would be delivered). Of course this was after the Burlingame office had told me I COULD NOT ORDER a basic model but after reading online I called the Stanford office the next day and was told sure I could.
While some may seem to be asking for things unrealistically it does seem that at a minimum Tesla could simply provide accurate basic information that is easily available to both sales people and to customers - then we wouldn't be having this discussion!
Agree with you.
I was just marking on the fact the post was really from April.
BTW may you let me know if there’s any additional difference compared to the SR+?
220 miles range, no fog lights, presumably .3 seconds slower but I have no way to confirm that. Immersive sound was still available (On/Off only) but it’s possible that still may get removed since the spec sheet says it is not included. And we didn’t purchase AP. Otherwise they are the exact same car.
Here comes the complaining department. Open the gates here it comes! Lol.
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