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Stalk or no stalk argument [not] settled

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First, we should analyze the matter without considering that the brand Tesla is making these changes and understand from a automotive/ engineering/ ergonomic point of view that whether indicator in steering has benefits compare to stalk. If it does, I'll accept that.

Obviously there is always a trade off in anything.

Having stalk as an independent module that it's functionality is not influenced by the functionality of another module (steering). Ergonomically, we apply force by our arms to move the steering, and we operate the stalk by our fingers (not thumb). This configuration only make sense if the steering is round. So stalks works with a round steering.

The no stalk configuration is ergonomically acceptable if there is a yoke. And only if the yoke doesn't need to turn not more halfway. In this case your thumbs are always where they suppose to be to function.

Another issue is the gear Selector.

First, I don't know what how you would select gear if you break your screen. Second, if you have a yoke configuration, the intent is to keep you hands on the yoke all the time. But that conflicts with selecting gear because to select gear you have to take you hand off the yoke and touch the screen.

Another issue is that selecting gear on screen mandates eye engagement (but not the stalk) which again defeats the purpose of buttons in yoke.

So the no stalk configuration only makes sense if the gear Selector is also on the yoke and the yoke only turns halfway.
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If by awesome community, you mean hiding behind your keyboard and making snarky comments to people whose opinion may differ from yours? Got it!
One opinion doesn't match yours and it's upsetting. Ok ... pot/kettle.

Post #640 was pretty direct, no hiding ... just offering an honest opinion with suggestion on how to move forward.

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In just about two hours, people have disagreed on opinions on whether "up for forward" or "down for forward" is more logical.

Which is why the swipe-gear shift should be replaced with fixed location buttons for gear selection....
They do! Did you miss my post just above? # 632? The perndal? P R N D L In the overhead. RTFM.
 
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