Supercharger - Lanaʻi City, Lanaʻi, HI (4 stalls + 36 wall connectors)

[1FrostySlime]

It’s always been private access. Larry Ellison had them installed, presumably for his hotel Tesla fleet.

Is the post saying it's in a publicly accessible location incorrect? No one refuted it.

The assumption that it would only be able to charge certain cars seems unlikely. Someone mentioned service center chargers but in my experience those are capable of charging any Tesla they just typically have "Private do not charge" signs or whatever but if you ignore them you can charge there.

 

[XHabjab]

Is there a reason this supercharger says "private access" on supercharge.info? The conclusion here seems to be that's it's a publicly accessible charger if you can get to the island and have a Tesla.

It’s always been private access. Larry Ellison had them installed, presumably for his hotel Tesla fleet.

I was there in February. The chargers are in a public lot with no restrictions on access. If supercharge.info says “private access”, then I believe it is a mistake. Access to the entire island is difficult, but if you get there, there are zero restrictions on access to the chargers. The Ellison-owned hotels indeed have Teslas for various purposes, but numerous private individuals have their own Teslas. There is a car rental service that will rent you a Model Y (which I don’t believe is Ellison owned).

Larry Ellison is trying to buy every piece of real estate he can on the island and pays inflated prices. Some property owners sell to him, some don’t. If you are an island resident, you can ship vehicles to the island. No restrictions on Teslas or any other vehicle. [but there are no 18 wheelers on the island.]

Visiting the island is not hard but moving there is difficult and expensive. If you are able to move there and bring a Tesla with you, there are plenty of public places to charge on the island with free unrestricted access, including the lot with the Superchargers.

Any “private”, “limited access” designation on the Superchargers is wrong.

@corywright @Big Earl

 

[nanimac]

I was there in February. The chargers are in a public lot with no restrictions on access. If supercharge.info says “private access”, then I believe it is a mistake. Access to the entire island is difficult, but if you get there, there are zero restrictions on access to the chargers. The Ellison-owned hotels indeed have Teslas for various purposes, but numerous private individuals have their own Teslas. There is a car rental service that will rent you a Model Y (which I don’t believe is Ellison owned).

Larry Ellison is trying to buy every piece of real estate he can on the island and pays inflated prices. Some property owners sell to him, some don’t. If you are an island resident, you can ship vehicles to the island. No restrictions on Teslas or any other vehicle. [but there are no 18 wheelers on the island.]

Visiting the island is not hard but moving there is difficult and expensive. If you are able to move there and bring a Tesla with you, there are plenty of public places to charge on the island with free unrestricted access, including the lot with the Superchargers.

Any “private”, “limited access” designation on the Superchargers is wrong.

@corywright @Big Earl

Thanks for clarifying! All this time, thought it was restricted! Although it doesn't show up on Tesla supercharger map.

 

[Fiver]

Much like the Moscow supercharger, I think this one is technically out of Tesla's control. They just sold the hardware to a third party. In this case that third party happens to be a Tesla board member. It's rare, but there are "private" superchargers. That's why this one isn't on Teslas map. This one is "private" but also open to anyone. It's location is the reason it isn't locked down though.

 

[nanimac]

Much like the Moscow supercharger, I think this one is technically out of Tesla's control. They just sold the hardware to a third party. In this case that third party happens to be a Tesla board member. It's rare, but there are "private" superchargers. That's why this one isn't on Teslas map. This one is "private" but also open to anyone. It's location is the reason it isn't locked down though.

And probably not many Teslas on the island besides hotel fleet so no need to restrict use

 

[MagicDave]

I was there in February. The chargers are in a public lot with no restrictions on access. If supercharge.info says “private access”, then I believe it is a mistake. Access to the entire island is difficult, but if you get there, there are zero restrictions on access to the chargers. The Ellison-owned hotels indeed have Teslas for various purposes, but numerous private individuals have their own Teslas. There is a car rental service that will rent you a Model Y (which I don’t believe is Ellison owned).

Larry Ellison is trying to buy every piece of real estate he can on the island and pays inflated prices. Some property owners sell to him, some don’t. If you are an island resident, you can ship vehicles to the island. No restrictions on Teslas or any other vehicle. [but there are no 18 wheelers on the island.]

Visiting the island is not hard but moving there is difficult and expensive. If you are able to move there and bring a Tesla with you, there are plenty of public places to charge on the island with free unrestricted access, including the lot with the Superchargers.

Any “private”, “limited access” designation on the Superchargers is wrong.

@corywright @Big Earl

The last time I was there the shuttle driver specifically said that the car rental place is owned by Ellison. It is also the islands only gasoline station with the gasoline subsidized, so it is also the lowest price gasoline station in the whole state of Hawaii. There are other diesel stations however.

 

[MagicDave]

I tried to visit and take pictures of the Lanai Supercharger. I was not successful.

I just came back from Lanai. Unfortunately I had an arm cast so I couldn't spend time at the beach or the pool. So I spent a lot of time walking and exploring the island.

When I asked the hotel staff at the Four Seasons beach resort about the Tesla Superchargers they would all point at one lot and say all the EV chargers are over there. That lot had a few Tesla Model X's and a few Mercedes Sprinter Vans. All of these were white with a pineapple symbol and Lānaʻi markings, and none plugged in. The northern row of spaces had each had one Tesla wall charger on a pedestal that looked like a typical Tesla Destination Charger. The four on the east side were black, the rest white. The southern row had a bunch of J-1772 chargers, each with two charger cords between every other space.

I never took pictures of these charger because I thought they were ordinary chargers. In the closeup satellite photo this lot is the lower lot in the photo. The trees obscure the Tesla chargers. In the other photo this lot is west of the building marked Four Seasons Management Lanai.

During my ride back to the Lanai airport from the resort I rode in a Tesla ModelX instead of a shuttle van. The driver told me that the four black chargers were the Tesla Superchargers, and they would only use them when they needed a Tesla charged quickly. I don't know if an actual supercharge can look like a destination charger, but that is what I was told.

By the way the original Tesla Mobile Charger in the black zipper case and the J-1772 adapter were in the frunk when they opened the model X for luggage. I saw a number of Tesla's on the island with the majority white, model X's and the pineapple markings on them. There were a few model X's without the markings both white and other standard colors. There was also a few model 3's. No S's or Y's. I was told that a few of the model 3's are privately owned. On one tour of the island I saw a house with a Nissan Leaf in the driveway (unplugged). One of the other hotel shuttle drivers told me that his girlfriend owns a Leaf which she normally charges with the plug in charger. The main car rental agency, Lanai Car Rental, has a few Tesla 3's for rent for visitors. That rental agency is also the islands only gas station with regular $4.18 per gallon and premium $5 per gallon. I am told that gas prices are partially subsidized by Larry Ellison who owns the rental agency and gas station as well as the three hotels on the island. There is another set of charging stations at a parking lot for the Sensei Four Seasons resort. I did not see any charging stations at the rental agency, the third hotel, or elsewhere on the island.

After reading the other postings about superchargers on the Island. I guess that I am wrong. These are high speed Destination Chargers, but not superchargers.

 

[XHabjab]

After reading the other postings about superchargers on the Island. I guess that I am wrong. These are high speed Destination Chargers, but not superchargers.

Look at the first picture I provided in message #62. Four (4) urban Superchargers.

… and a small forest of destination chargers. No commentary from me on high power or not.

Edit: a few more details… here is a rerun of the picture I posted in #62:

We are looking almost South here. SSE perhaps. The building in the background seems to be the Four Seasons bakery, according to map info. This paved parking lot is relatively new and is not showing up on any maps that I have on my phone. The chargers are in roughly the right place on this (stale) image, but the pavement does not show:

The parking lot is on the NW corner of Fraser Ave and Twelfth Street.

The thumbnail location of my picture (above) is accurate. Eleventh Street does not connect to Fraser Ave but if you project 11th across Fraser into the parking lot, the urban chargers are right there, with the destination chargers to the South of them towards 12th street. The “Supercharger” text on the map is in the wrong place (also on plugshare). It is not in the parking lot of the King’s Chapel (ie. across from 10th Street).