When did the official owners forums turn into a place for people to post ideas about solar panels and nuclear fusion (or perpetual motion) being a great idea for the Roadster and Model S? I guess it was with the site redesign and opening the forum up to the public (which is fine of course). TMC is also open to the public but has a much more focused and serious readership/following which I like. Actually the level of knowledge and helpfulness of people at TMC is amazing so I think it's one of the best forums I read. Just an observation on a slow Sunday I guess.