Etna
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Video proof of his bet that Tesla will pass Volkswagen production by 2030:
Tesla stock will hit $578 per share: Analyst
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Video proof of his bet that Tesla will pass Volkswagen production by 2030:
Tesla stock will hit $578 per share: Analyst
Hell, I’d take that bet!
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Lol, I'd take the 'over' on that bet too. VW makes just 10M cars/yr so that's a low bar. Maybe VW+TM = Tesla's output in 2030, but that's a BIG if since it's not clear that Volkswagen and Toyota will survive 10 more years (at least not as currrently operating).
No transition, no demand, no company. That's the stark future for ICEmakers.
So 20M Teslas and 10M VW+TM? Or just bankrupt ICE?
Cheers!
It isn’t FUD. SpaceX did ink a military contract to study delivering cargo worldwide within an hour.
U.S. Transportation Command to study use of SpaceX rockets to move cargo around the world - SpaceNews
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If the DOE have been researching batteries for 16 years now and they have as their goal nearly the same goals as Elon has for batteries, this begs the question as to why Elon pours time and resources into developing cheaper batteries when the DOE are already doing that. Surely, a governmental agency like DOE, with its superior numbers of researchers and resources, should be able to outperform a mere commercial enterprise in this area, could it not? </satire>
bkp_duke
Well-Known Member
Does not compute. You don't "start" a Tesla. If he was in it listening to the radio, it would be ready to go!
Sure you do. But the ignition switch is literally on your ass in the driver's seat.
Krugerrand
Meow
They never gave him credit because they all said (including many here) that it couldn’t happen. The pages and pages of posts here; if I had a TSLA share for every one —
So now that they were so very wrong; let’s not talk about it. Sshhhhhh
I’ve heard the ‘it can’t be done’ so many times now that the second somebody says it; I write them off as talking out their, umm, clueless.
Mo City
Active Member
I believe this is where most of us are.
Rather, I think the new excavations are adjacent to the casting extension. So probably another, larger casting extension. Pretty enormous. Perhaps for Model 2? Model Y production expansion?
Amazing that the next phase of construction seems to be kicking off early. Not the beginning of the year, as with prior phases.
Tesla's (TSLA) record Q3 is giving analysts a reason to second-guess expectations
... analysts at numerous firms across the country are preparing and revising their estimations for the electric automaker’s quarterly call.
Analysts : wait a minute. If they delivered more cars, then.... [2 weeks later] ... they might make more money!
... analysts at numerous firms across the country are preparing and revising their estimations for the electric automaker’s quarterly call.
Analysts : wait a minute. If they delivered more cars, then.... [2 weeks later] ... they might make more money!
On a slow day.....
I am going to abuse my powers as first, the namesake ‘owner’ of this thread but more implacably, as its Moderator, to place an entirely Off Topic post, immediately following this one. As I don’t countenance others doing the same, please indulge me by confining any responses to the “vote” choice - thank you.
I am going to abuse my powers as first, the namesake ‘owner’ of this thread but more implacably, as its Moderator, to place an entirely Off Topic post, immediately following this one. As I don’t countenance others doing the same, please indulge me by confining any responses to the “vote” choice - thank you.
Without debating the other points these three deserve a bit of comparison:
In most locations around the world maintenance history, operator training, monitoring and specific use patterns plus historical documentation do yield dramatic insurance rate variations today. Specific cases in point are heavy vehicle fleets, shipping, aircraft (especially fleets, but often single aircraft also. Less frequently there are factors that sometimes supplement 'no claims bonus' schemes. Where those exist they tend to be for exotic vehicles and commonly happen in cooperation with the the manufacturer or distributor. Having been a beneficiary of several of those schemes , I know the carriers that do such things often use quite detailed information that most carriers do not employ.
Where Tesla can innovate the most consequentially is in operator information monitoring and vehicle use patterns. The maintenance and collision repair components will be material also, without doubt. At the moment there really are no vehicle classes other than ships, airplanes and large trucks where anything approaching Tesla with cars. Large commercial aircraft from Airbus and some newer Boeings plus Dassault and some Gulfstream/Canadair models have such monitoring coupled with maintenance and repair processes. Tesla has vastly more data than even those, they only need to figure out how to apply all that data, particularly in a prospective manner (i.e. writing new policies for new customers).
Jest after that category comes the collision repair side, where two factors coincide, time out of service and cost of repair. Both of those have been abysmal for Tesla in years past. Both are being addressed although we do not yet have enough data to be confident they've really turned the tide of woe. Thus Tesla collision repair costs have been very high. Assuming the improvements are happening Tesla will have better data and better control of the entire collision cost cycle. That immediately could produce very substantial savings for Tesla customers and better loss rations.
All of this is far from trivial and actuarial practices are, and must be, inherently conservative.
The processes described cursorily above can make seeming high risks into low ones, yielding low rates and high profitability at the same time.
FWIW, owner-pilots of turbine and jet aircraft that often are uninsurable can get cheap rates if their actual total data can prove, normally with some fairly intrusive monitoring. Having experienced that, I am confident that Tesla can do all of that while not even seeming intrusive, although the policy holders will know they're being continuously monitored. Just as moving from a LR25D to a CE525 halved my rates, I suspect moving from a Plaid/Ludicrous to a normal version will always save money, but Tesla can make costs reflect actual driving behavior, which will benefit everyone who buys those things and does not use all the performance.
Just think, eventually Tesla might well be able to do similar tings with TE products, At the outset they should be able to do it with Semi and Cybertruck.
Geographical expansion will be a major PITA, given all the arcane jurisdiction rules.
Hmmm... SP still rising. The MMs aren't going to like this if we close where we are. I wonder how much money they'll spend to get the price down to 420'ish (max pain)?
RIP Borealis 2006-2020
I have been raising malamutes for four decades and, while of course every one of them was special in his or her own way, not only was he the most outstanding Alaskan malamute I ever have known, but his grace, his gentlemanliness, his sensitivity to especially his mistress’s loves, fears, worries and pains, his astonishing ability to make us laugh at his antics, and his absolute gentleness to go with his massive frame - I never will see his equal in any dog of any breed.
Even in his passing, he was able to do so with the utmost solicitude, gently falling into a coma yesterday, while at home, and passing on just at dawn.
He and his littermate sister Aurora had as lucky lives as dogs can have, spending most of their time on this earth exploring the high boreal forest and the endless tundra that surrounds our high-elevation home and, in those several winters we spent in Arizona, able freely to explore six fully fenced acres.
Each year, thousands of our guests would take back to their home countries hilarious stories and videos of the two clowns enthusiastically singing along to my or Jenny’s playing the harmonica; they would greet each set of guests by answering to “What’s your name?” with Aurora responding “A-roo-roo” and Borealis a baritone “Bo!”.
The world got a chance to watch Borealis when he appeared in a Jeep commercial that was shot on our compound - I’ll never get over not receiving a copy of that ad for our files.
Most wonderfully, when in 2010 the legislature named the Alaskan malamute as the official state dog, our biggest newspaper, the Anchorage Daily News, put this photo (my re-appearing avatar) of Borealis on the front page.....where it stayed for an entire year. Borealis was, indeed, THE state dog.
Farewell Bo. The world is a dimmer, grayer place without you.
edited to correct date. Thanks, mongo
I have been raising malamutes for four decades and, while of course every one of them was special in his or her own way, not only was he the most outstanding Alaskan malamute I ever have known, but his grace, his gentlemanliness, his sensitivity to especially his mistress’s loves, fears, worries and pains, his astonishing ability to make us laugh at his antics, and his absolute gentleness to go with his massive frame - I never will see his equal in any dog of any breed.
Even in his passing, he was able to do so with the utmost solicitude, gently falling into a coma yesterday, while at home, and passing on just at dawn.
He and his littermate sister Aurora had as lucky lives as dogs can have, spending most of their time on this earth exploring the high boreal forest and the endless tundra that surrounds our high-elevation home and, in those several winters we spent in Arizona, able freely to explore six fully fenced acres.
Each year, thousands of our guests would take back to their home countries hilarious stories and videos of the two clowns enthusiastically singing along to my or Jenny’s playing the harmonica; they would greet each set of guests by answering to “What’s your name?” with Aurora responding “A-roo-roo” and Borealis a baritone “Bo!”.
The world got a chance to watch Borealis when he appeared in a Jeep commercial that was shot on our compound - I’ll never get over not receiving a copy of that ad for our files.
Most wonderfully, when in 2010 the legislature named the Alaskan malamute as the official state dog, our biggest newspaper, the Anchorage Daily News, put this photo (my re-appearing avatar) of Borealis on the front page.....where it stayed for an entire year. Borealis was, indeed, THE state dog.
Farewell Bo. The world is a dimmer, grayer place without you.
edited to correct date. Thanks, mongo
Off Shore
Off Topic Member
I'm sorry you lost your friend.
Dancing Lemur
Hoopy Frood
My initial reaction was to give this post a Funny. But then I realised that the message we should be taking from it is that fully autonomous driving is a really tough nut to crack. Mostly because the real world is too fuzzy, which results in the inevitable “march of 9s”.
We already know that Elon Musk is a highly risk-tolerant, challenge-accepting individual, which is why we got used to take his predictions as likely to come to fruition, but not on the timelines that accompany those predictions. Even so, Elon has recently dialled back his optimism in terms of the time remaining until FSD becomes a reality for the general public. He knows they’ll get there but it’s become more clear to him what needs to happen in the meantime, and how long that’s likely to take.
So the sobering part of that story is that a typically conservative automaker like Nissan, even under the leadership of a relatively forward-looking CEO by industry standards such as Ghosn, was sufficiently confident back in 2013 that autonomous driving would be in the bag by 2020 to put out that press release.
So, yes, it will still be a while. Of course I trust the very dedicated, highly talented engineering team at Tesla, pushed hard by a guy whose brain works in terms of “not physically impossible + appropriate engineering solutions = reality” to hit that elusive target first. But WHEN remains the main unknown.
bkp_duke
Well-Known Member
https://seekingalpha.com/article/43...st-in-worlds-advanced-ev-market-in-peak-month
Another SA hit piece.
I post it not b/c we don't know the FUD that they will post, but specifically for people to look at the comments in the article. The comments show that we still have a LONG way for Tesla perceptions to improve. Even among Europeans in that thread, there are some simply dead wrong impressions about Tesla.
Another SA hit piece.
I post it not b/c we don't know the FUD that they will post, but specifically for people to look at the comments in the article. The comments show that we still have a LONG way for Tesla perceptions to improve. Even among Europeans in that thread, there are some simply dead wrong impressions about Tesla.
Sorry for the loss of your dog. We lost ours to cancer a few months ago and our lives are more empty now.
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