Elon sees zero correlation between his tweeting and order flows. So he is not sabotaging Tesla after all, what a shocker.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Yes but don't the others use additives? It's not a clean burn.
Only half joking... what if a new trend was to post % clean energy on EV pumps. Could be useful... could even catch on to drive improvements, even locally.
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
You wonder if anyone still holds TSLA? No, nobody is holding TSLA right now. We are so fed up with Elon that we didn't even bother to give our shares away to someone else, we just requested paper stock certificates and then had a bonfire. So TSLA is owned by no one now. I hope this answers your question. /s
Don't you have something better to do?
cliff harris
Member
Exactly my thoughts. I definitely think teslas strategy is changing to one of staying quiet on future developments for longer. Elon is clearly not worried, and neither are the board, and they are definitely ACTING like vast expansion and growth is coming. Talk of lithium refineries, mexico factory, maybe canada factory, and upgrading of shanghai for more production...
I do think something is coming. Maybe a long-overdue refresh of the model 3. Maybe front/rear cast plus heat pump yada yada. Maybe a refreshed model 3 will be WAY cheaper to build?
I think there may be internal resistance to announcing anything new before cybertruck and semi are in serious production, because of the inevitable headlines. I do think work is likely properly underway on something new we dont even know about yet.
Best part of the bonfire was when we took turns throwing our useless Tesla Cars into the flames one by one. They were paperweights anyway!
Man, those batteries can burn!
... said every short seller wondering if there's any more to be taken away.
In case you're actually curious, I've had the same number of shares since the split, and about the same before that adjusted, give or take a 100.
I sold a chunk in '21 to pay off some things and invest in my own business, then a little more in Oct to pay some more taxes on those proceeds (ouch!). The rest is coffee money trades in/out.
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Does Geely still control Polestar? Is Polestar considered part of the Geely conglomerate? I know that in some Asian countries, subsidiaries are sometimes controlled with lower than the 50% ownership that is typical in the West. For example, the various chaebols.Not surprising that CAPEX is so low. They have one factory and not much product development since at core Polestar are badge-engineered Volvos. They do have some differences in packaging but not much. Polestar are built on Geely/Volvo platforms and built in Gelly/Volvo factories, except for a single showcase in Chengdu:
Polestar Production Facility
The new Chengdu headquarter for the electric performance car producer Polestar combines world-class production facilities with touchpoints for both customers and visitors. The bright and spacious production facility is open to everyone, and the building provides great outdoor spaces, while allowi...snohetta.com
Think of them as analogues of Toyota/Lexus, Nissan/Infiniti, Chevrolet/GMC. Even Hyundai/Kia is more differentiated. VW/Skoda/Seat are nearly identical but have different national histories and factories.
That really explains why Capex is so low. Geely loves multiple versions of everything with multiple brands.
If so, then perhaps Geely can paint any results it wishes. So read the financial statements with caution.
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SunCatcher
Member
Indeed, after all, what's the point of awarding him stock options/tranches for Tesla performance if he's never allowed to sell any? Obviously at points along the way he needs to sell some, or let's face it; it's not worth anything, is it? Logic seems to have lost its grasp on some people.
Where is everyone? Did you all sell everything?
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Didn't you get the memo from @StealthP3D about converting to paper shares and making a bonfire?
Also, there is a new cover sheet for the TPS reports...
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...I just checked the asset allocation in my portfolio. This drop down, hilariously, made it healthier.
The majority was bought in 2018 and 2019 for an average of 16. But I took about 60% off the table on several occasions between 350 (on the way up) and 250 (on the way down) to pay for my penthouse and my company building, among other things. So that does make it easier for me.
But I still lost 50% of the remainder this year (on paper). That's less than the SP went down because I earned premium by writing calls and puts. And I've been buying recently (650 shares) at prices between 125 and 138. I'm planning on buying 100 more today or tomorrow. I'm not losing any sleep over the big drop. It's only a loss when you sell. And even if I would sell, it's just money. There are much more important things in life.
I do realize that I'm in a luxury position for not having to worry about money and even having the opportunity to invest more. I can see why it's less easy for others.
Mr Macro doesn't seem pleased but TSLA is holding up against them.
It's actually a really good day in Az because it's raining, possibly a week's worth in store. Although I strongly prefer sunshine, it's an even better day as our new roof was just completed yesterday JIT. No more leaks on the drums and PA speaker! Solar panels in a pile, and don't actually need them right now anyway. Perfect timing, I wonder what's next?
It's actually a really good day in Az because it's raining, possibly a week's worth in store. Although I strongly prefer sunshine, it's an even better day as our new roof was just completed yesterday JIT. No more leaks on the drums and PA speaker! Solar panels in a pile, and don't actually need them right now anyway. Perfect timing, I wonder what's next?
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
My understanding is: 1) Polestar was split off. 2) Haven't heard how much stock Greely owns or doesn't own.
Rain in Arizona is good for car sales.
FSDtester#1
Large Member
It appears some people hit their breaking point with yesterday's SP action.
I guess everyone has a point where they just lose it.
Like if someone put their hands on one of my kids... I pity that person because I would be blinded by rage and would not care about the consequences.
With all due respect, I would never compare the SP of any company to the hypothetical above. So let's try and keep things in perspective moving forward.
It's $$... most of us, God willing have the ability to make more. We will if we are patient. HODL seems like the best plan for me and my family.
I guess everyone has a point where they just lose it.
Like if someone put their hands on one of my kids... I pity that person because I would be blinded by rage and would not care about the consequences.
With all due respect, I would never compare the SP of any company to the hypothetical above. So let's try and keep things in perspective moving forward.
It's $$... most of us, God willing have the ability to make more. We will if we are patient. HODL seems like the best plan for me and my family.
I think I still have an "old GM" stock cert, worthless since the bankruptcy. Should toss it in the wood stove.
SebastienBonny
Member
Some crazy mind you got there.
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