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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Krugerrand
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Demand issues in Europe.
2daMoon
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Thanks for this, good thread. I encourage you to also post your analysis here at TMC.
Early sample Tesla 4680 cells have no silicon in the anode. This puts them at an energy density disadvantage vs. Panasonic 2170s currently produced at Giga Nevada. I look for Tesla to update 4680 anode chemistry when Cybertruck goes into production in Texas. Increase in energy density w. silicon anode could be up to 25%: (this allows for a 188KWh pack in the volume of a 150KWh pack w/o silicon)
Then we have to figure in Cybertruck's superior aerodynamics. It's Cd is 0.39 vs 0.59 for an F150 Raptor:
Here’s how the Cybertruck’s aerodynamics compare to regular trucks
One thing that Elon Musk emphasized about the Cybertruck during its unveil is that its design is about more than just aesthetics. We already know the thick, angular steel plates makes for a stronger frame and theoretically lower build cost,
thenextweb.com
Using an online calculator, given 7,000 lbs weight, 35" diameter tires, Cd of 0.39 and 31.5 sq.ft frontal area (same as Ford F-150 Lightning) we get an estimated 0.362 KWh/mi energy consumption at 60 mph:
Wheels Vehicle Simulation - Cybertruck | virtual-car.org
This result implies ~180 KWh energy required to drive 500 miles on the highway at 60 mph, or ~96% of a hypothetical Si-anode battery pack. Such a pack will be able to charge @ 350KW from 10% to 85% adding 385 miles of range in about 24 min.
With silcon-doped anodes, these cells may have a max charge rate of 6C (nominally 100% in 10 min), thus they would be limited by v3 Supercharger output. However, these new cells would also be able to sustain max charge rate longer via tapering later/shallower.
TL;dr A 500-mile range Cybertruck is realistic w/o requiring a dual-layer battery pack when silicon anode material is used in 4680 production cells.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
The larger issue is the cost of replacement for high wear components on Robotaxis: (ie: tires)
Tesla Tire Costs 10× Battery Cost, & My Plan To Deflate Tire Costs 90% | Teslarati (Oct 03, 2020)
Gigapress
Trying to be less wrong
This article has a good point. Tires are going to be a big portion of the remaining cost structure of transportation in an autonomous EV.
Tesla is slashing costs of producing the vehicles, including the battery packs, and they'll last a very long time with the LFP packs. Insurance costs should fall by about an order of magnitude if autonomy improves safety by an order of magnitude. Electricity costs are going to plummet too if solar and stationary storage cost trends continue for another decade or two.
This leaves tires as one of the main significant costs on an amortized lifetime basis. Some of the redesigns suggested in the article will help. The fact that robotaxis won't be accelerating and cornering hard will help too. Still, I wonder how Tesla plans to approach this problem.
Nice! Ended up at 623:
275 from China and 344 from Germany (for four the origin was marked as "na").
23 had the new quicksilver paint
Not sure if this is for real . V 11 out to wide release this weekend
V11 goes wide this weekend it seems. Given Q1 data approaching on top of some nice product tweaks, should be good.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Posting the primary source:
Soo, if I remember correctly, they would add Canada, and then probably Norway next. Any rumours on timing of the latter?
"On March 14, Tesla won a lawsuit against a famous car reviewer and TikTok celebrity known as “Boss Cai” for damaging Tesla’s reputation."
"The incident started in 2021 when Boss Cai released a video claiming that a friend who worked as a Tesla supplier had revealed some violations in cooperation with suppliers. He claimed that when building the Tesla Shanghai plant, the company repeatedly pressured its suppliers to lower their prices. Also, according to Cai’s friend, Tesla’s quality inspectors didn’t do it well and instead used their position to obtain personal advantages.
According to court documents, inviting this “friend” to testify in court was impossible, as Cai claimed he forgot this friend’s name under tremendous pressure."
"The incident started in 2021 when Boss Cai released a video claiming that a friend who worked as a Tesla supplier had revealed some violations in cooperation with suppliers. He claimed that when building the Tesla Shanghai plant, the company repeatedly pressured its suppliers to lower their prices. Also, according to Cai’s friend, Tesla’s quality inspectors didn’t do it well and instead used their position to obtain personal advantages.
According to court documents, inviting this “friend” to testify in court was impossible, as Cai claimed he forgot this friend’s name under tremendous pressure."
Not directly. The first thing I recall was the 2020 announcement of a specific high performance Elect tire for the Porsche Taycan:
Pirelli Designs A Specific Tire For The Porsche Taycan
The Pirelli Elect tire series finds its way to the Porsche Taycan.
www.torquenews.com
Pirelli launches new 'High-Load' tire for EVs, and Lucid is first in line to try
Italian tire maker Pirelli is launching its new “high load” tire specific for Hybrid and all-electric vehicles and SUVs. The high load tire will sport an “HL” marking on its sidewall as an indicator that it will have the ability to handle more weight, a necessity for electric cars due to their...
www.teslarati.com
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Sorry, I am in the same situation as are you.
Pre-market dropping like a rock again because of banking woes, this time Credit Suisse. Why can't these bankers get their acts together? Too much focussed on short-term bonusses, I guess.
www.marketwatch.com
Nothing to do with Tesla, but the market doesn't care.
Dow ends down 280 points after Credit Suisse woes reignite bank-sector angst
U.S. stocks ended mostly lower Wednesday, but well off the session's worst levels, after concerns over the health of Credit Suisse sparked renewed...
www.marketwatch.com
Nothing to do with Tesla, but the market doesn't care.
..and some crazy fanboys (got a pair of short shorts myself so qualified to say this)!
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Canadians have beta, but no mthly FSD rentals yet. Tesla doing internal testing in UK, EU. Some recent progress on Regulations:
UNECE update on DCAS regulations and FSD Beta for Europe (2023-03-13)
thanks for sharing Tesla news has been light ....great stuff ... it is the gift of life for your dad ... this May will mark my 30th anniversary of my Kidney Transplant donated from my brother ... that was 1993 ... before some of you were born...
Paracelsus
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…..and dropping over this event, which shouldn’t be taken lightly:Pre-market dropping like a rock again because of banking woes, this time Credit Suisse. Why can't these bankers get their acts together? Too much focussed on short-term bonusses, I guess.
Dow ends down 280 points after Credit Suisse woes reignite bank-sector angst
U.S. stocks ended mostly lower Wednesday, but well off the session's worst levels, after concerns over the health of Credit Suisse sparked renewed...
Nothing to do with Tesla, but the market doesn't care.
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Saudi's jerked the rug out from under Credit Suisse this morning:
Credit Suisse shares slide 24%, trading halted after Saudi backer rules out further assistance | CNBC.com
Credit Suisse shares slide 24%, trading halted after Saudi backer rules out further assistance | CNBC.com
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