Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[Fact Checking]

OT: SpaceX launch

Only oxidizer is subcooled

They are bringing the RP-1 to pretty low temperatures too I think to increase its density: -7 °C IIRC?

Which is a dangerous game if we look at the viscosity of subcooled kerosene:

There's a sharp increase below 20 degrees Celsius, with kerosene turning into gel at lower temperatures before freezing at around -47 °C.

Technically 'subcooled' is any liquid that is below the boiling point, so both the fuel and the oxidizer used by SpaceX is subcooled.

 

[Curt Renz]

Benzinga - 3 minutes ago: Tesla Motors, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) - Baird Reiterates Outperform On Tesla, Reiterates $340 Target As Firm Notes 'Management indicated demand is not a concern; we believe the narrative is overly negative and think Bear arguments will be disproven in the coming weeks and months'

 

[Unpilot]

MMD is da house!!

 

[zzziii]

Ihor Dusaniwsky on Twitter

 

[Fact Checking]

Due to using sub-cooled fuel and oxidizer, along with the countdown process, all SpaceX launches are instantaneous since recycle time is like 90 minutes or so...

Yeah, I meant a scrub means a scrub for the day, no secondary launch attempt today, next launch window is tomorrow, ~same local time.

With broader launch windows they can re-try after ~90 minutes.

T minus 17 minutes.

 

[MP3Mike]

They do. I have seen A Tesla in a TV show and Deadpool 2.

A number of made for Netflix shows have had a Tesla in them, but I don't think Tesla is paying for that, so they aren't doing product placement.

 

[RoadsterPlease]

weird open, I'm pretty certain we will see 230 by the end of the week

 

[AlexS]

MMD is da house!!

I think it is a bear raid, but not so many shares available to borrow, should be about 5mil left.

 

[Mars ☰mperor]

45+ million shorted, is that a new record?

 

[Curt Renz]

CFRA will conduct a webinar today at 11:00 am EDT.

They will be discussing the outlook for ESG (Environmental, Social, Governance) ETFs. It’s possible they may discuss how Tesla fits the criteria. This will conclude with a Q&A session during which we can ask questions.

Registration: ESG Approaches in ETFs

 

[dhrivnak]

Instead of advertising they could do product placement

What better car for iron man to drive than a Tesla???

 

[Mike Smith]

According to Ihor there are only around 48-49 million shares readily available to short. They've nearly run out..

 

[Dwdnjck]

Does anyone know why Democrat controlled states are now seemingly anti-EV? We're basically moving from having incentives to buy an EV, to disincentives. Recently, Illinois was looking at passing a $1000 yearly tax on EVs, but instead passed a $250 per year tax - still $100 more than the average on ICE vehicles.

Are Dems either THAT desperate for revenue or just simply getting paid off by big oil, dealerships, and legacy car manufacturers - similar to what happened in all the Republican states? I agree that EV owners should pay their fair share of road taxes, but MORE than ICE vehicles? (it's about the same in Georgia).

And I often wonder about the intelligence of these elected officials. One in Illinois was touting how much money they would take in if they raised the EV tax to $1000 yearly - NO YOU WON'T - you'll just kill the sales of EVs!! Doh!!

Dealers!

 

[Chop110]

A number of made for Netflix shows have had a Tesla in them, but I don't think Tesla is paying for that, so they aren't doing product placement.

There is a recurring Model X appearance (with engine noise added) in Hulu’s Handmaid’s Tale

 

[winfield100]

RADARSAT CONSTELLATION MISSION | SpaceX
go for launch 8 min and counting down

 

[StealthP3D]

I do think Tesla advertisements would have a snowflake's chance in hell of working, in fact it's worse:

• It's a waste of money.
• Tesla's silence is deafening, and is a signal in itself. Millennials and Gen Z have definitely noticed this deafening silence and are reacting to it positively. 'Some' advertising would possibly destroy this.

Bravo! I think you hit the nail on the head!

Yesterday, when Musk was being pushed in the direction of advertising, I could see he had something he was trying to say but he decided against it. He really does "get it" more than his stumbling style would indicate. There is a certain value in NOT advertising that is completely lost as soon as you release your first ad. He decided to not let this secret out of the bag. That would only make it less effective and journalists would get some choice quotes out of it that would be twisted and turned and it wouldn't be a pretty look.

That said, advertising is a big money industry with huge profits. Because it pays to control peoples thoughts, desires and emotions. People get rich doing this and it's one more industry that Tesla doesn't support. It's no surprise that those in the business will insist advertising is not optional but required.

Big batteries are expensive but, as most of us know, are at the heart of superior and more desirable cars. How to make them cost competitive with cheaper fossil cars? Slash expenses! And advertising is at the heart of much of this. If your car doesn't stand out, just advertise the hell out of it - it WILL sell. But it will make the car more expensive. Tesla is trying to make the EV affordable. Tesla is the only maker of cars that don't need to advertise - and that's saying a lot!

 

[Drax7]

Tesla needs a PR firm to counter the media’s false narrative,
It’s not about increasing demand but rather about not
Letting others undermine their achievements which
In turn destroy demand.

I could not quite understand Elon’s hesitancy about this
Issue.

 

[Remus]

Does anyone know why Democrat controlled states are now seemingly anti-EV? We're basically moving from having incentives to buy an EV, to disincentives. Recently, Illinois was looking at passing a $1000 yearly tax on EVs, but instead passed a $250 per year tax - still $100 more than the average on ICE vehicles.

Are Dems either THAT desperate for revenue or just simply getting paid off by big oil, dealerships, and legacy car manufacturers - similar to what happened in all the Republican states? I agree that EV owners should pay their fair share of road taxes, but MORE than ICE vehicles? (it's about the same in Georgia).

And I often wonder about the intelligence of these elected officials. One in Illinois was touting how much money they would take in if they raised the EV tax to $1000 yearly - NO YOU WON'T - you'll just kill the sales of EVs!! Doh!!

Why is this surprising at all? The New York times being the left side's go to news source continue to bash Tesla for years.

 

[Mike Smith]

https://electrek.co/2019/06/12/tesla-battery-cell-production-maxwell-tech/

 

[EVNow]

Hmmm, that didn't go according to plan. I rolled/sold all my weeklies.